Oh sorry, because I have been on this forum before I should just expect ill informed and ignorant ramblings about something like this. Christ SOG, I can see why you have such as an issue with the dementia tax. Why donât you wait until the facts are presented to us and then we can go into why this happened, as at the moment itâs all conjecture.
Or, as suggested, do it on another thread maybe do I can just ignore it.
There are plenty of facts that we already know, which you would be aware of if you had read the whole thread. Things concerning legislation and ignored reports. They all tie in with this fire so it is appropriate to post about them here. I am sorry if you donât approve but perhaps you should have better things to do as you are on holiday.
Yeah, youâre right, tragedy doesnât matter as long as youâre on holiday.
Didnât say that did I? If you have nothing better to do, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain what I have written here that is ill-informed?
Do you have the full details of the fire, how it started, and how it spread, from the fire officials? Do you have the full details of what money was spent by the building owner, or local authorities, and what decisions were made and why as to sprinkler systems, alarms etc? Has there been a full inspection of the finances of the landlords to see whether austerity was in play, or was it just a bottom line figure?
Unless youâve got th above, youâre ill informed and I will kindly ask you to shut the fuck up, please.
If thatâs not what youâre saying, what ARE you saying?
O I donât, but that isnât what I am talking about. I am talking about wider issues that affect this situation. No I wonât shut up. I have just as much right to post on here as you. Sorry if you struggle with the anti Tory sentiments. And I wasnât talking about the tragedy, I was talking about you arguing with a bloke on the internet when you are on holiday. Your choice of course but donât blame me, no one forced you to log on, holiday or not.
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Time to knob off to the beef thread chaps
Yep, apologies.
Fair comment. Iâll see you on the beef thread Cherts where you can explain which of my comments were ill-informed.
But surely they shouldnât be expressing their anger and frustration until the result of the inquiry is known? 
This might be a justifiable reason for people bringing politics into it and looking at how the people are reacting towards May, i donât think they are going to be palmed off and will demand answers for this.
In 2014, the then housing minister (who is now the immigration minister), Brandon Lewis, rejected calls to force construction companies to fit sprinklers in the homes they built on the following grounds:
âIn our commitment to be the first Government to reduce regulation, we have introduced the one in, two out rule for regulation ⊠Under that rule, when the Government introduce a regulation, we will identify two existing ones to be removed. The Department for Communities and Local Government has gone further and removed an even higher proportion of regulations. In that context, Members will understand why we want to exhaust all non-regulatory options before we introduce any new regulations.â
In other words, though he accepted that sprinklers âare an effective way of controlling fires and of protecting lives and propertyâ, to oblige builders to introduce them would conflict with the governmentâs deregulatory agenda.
Now i donât give a shit what party anyone supports, but any MP(both sides guilty) that allow safety regulations to be scrapped/watered-down or attempts to stop new regulations in the name of profit is not fit for office. Greed and safety donât go together.
Was good to see at least one politician hugging and talking with the people that have just had their lives destroyed(sorry Cherts, couldnât resist. Now enjoy your holiday. This country will still be shit when you return.)
This is the sort of thing that brings down governments.
I expect the local residents who feel so badly let down are politicising too.
A mini heat wave and angry protests on the streets of London.
Good job there havenât been sweeping cuts to the Police and Fire services eh?