Truth and lies.
Funny Bazza put up Narcos first and it got slated, the sheep are well on it now though, I moved on baby, moved on.
Yo TedMaul, this is television, not movies.
I actually feel for you. You must go to cinemas expecting to see Eastenders or summat. Disappointed every time.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Funny Bazza put up Narcos first and it got slated, the sheep are well on it now though, I moved on baby, moved on.
It was very well received once people had watched it. Stop being a meff.
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River seems to have potential - Sixth Sense meets Swedish Noir
Chabuddy G is one of my favourite TV characters in ages. Love PJDN, though watched 1 ep with the gf and she just did not get it. Perhaps it just doesnāt work as well for people that didnāt grow up in (North-) West London, listening to pirate garage radio stations. Who knows?
Also, fair play Bazz. You called it. Narcoās is pretty darn good. Brutal right from the offset.
People judge a book by its cover, a bit racist and judgemental if you ask me.
No-oneās asking you, Baz 
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Digressing have you flogged that ticket yet?
For Leicester? Nope, but Iām probably not going to now. I did ask some of my mates if they wanted the ticket.
For the Liverpool one?
Iām not flogging my Liverpool ticket, and donāt know why you thought I was, mucker.
You coming out for beers with GB and myself?
Nah my Mrs grew up in Tokyo and loves it. I think you do need to have a bit of exposure to that type of people. She had plenty when we lived in Brixton and streatham.
So your Missus likes exposure and had plenty of it in Streatham and Brixton and she loves it, arenāt you concerned?
Is GB Great Britain?
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @pap
Iām not flogging my Liverpool ticket, and donāt know why you thought I was, mucker.
You coming out for beers with GB and myself?
Is GB Great Britain?
Yes, correct, and its your round, for being wrong about JWP.
Watch the Shane Meadows film āThis Is Englandā in preparation for this post, if you havenāt already.
Done? Good. Youāre now set to watch the TV extensions, This Is England '86, TIE '88 and TIE '90.
I can recall few shows where Iāve given more of a toss about the people it depicts (theyāre more than just fictional characters, donāt try to convince me otherwise!) As much as I liked Richard Linklaterās film āBoyhoodā, you can stick your over-indulgent real-time filming because this got there first (and is far less pretentious).
I donāt like the term āgrittyā so Iām not going to use it. Instead Iāll say that the This Is England series feels real. The drama may demonstrate extremes but rarely does it edge towards implausibility. In fact I hope itās true that TIE has concluded with '90 because in my opinion the creators have never put a foot wrong.
As a social commentary it ought to be studied in schools, if it isnāt already.
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Time will tell on this natural goalscorer and tacklerā¦
Do you not find Shane Meadows at all pretentious? Iām not knocking him (well, only a bit) as I think his stuff is usually really great. But it is a tad pretentious and self-indulgent at times.
Agree on TIE though, it is really good. Havenāt watched '90 yet, missed '88 and need to catch up. But the film & '86 had the amazing qualities of being almost unwatchable and yet utterly compelling at the same time. Some scenes were so brutal to watch, yet you couldnāt not watch. That is an exceptional skill, the balance of getting those scenes right most be a monumental task.
I dont think pretentious or self indulgent are the right words, but appreciate where you comming fromā¦ and sadly my vocabulary is a little short of offering a suitable alternative. Some of the scenes were harrowing, yet as you say compelling and the final episode of '90 once again delivers this in spadesā¦ exceptional TV. Left me emotionlly drained.
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