Barry, I suggest you go back and revisit your ‘history’ of posting on SWF… I am not lost,I am European, citizen of the world, I dont need a national identifty to define who I am. You sadly are either full of pretend wind up shit… or full of shit. Either way, the stench of your ‘froth’ is pretty clear to me. I dont agree with many on here, I just dont have any time for you or your views. Go back to posting the E D L shite you used to as at least it was more honest.
Oh dear, I have never posted that shite and never will, your inorance on bloodlines interests me, now you have changed the argument and have become JFK Mark II with your lovely citizen of the Wolrd bollocks (a Western liberal privilege).
You don’t like it up you do you my boy.
Tel me about our bloodlines my fellow European.
I’ll help you, (you can add our bloodlines if you wish) following a bloodline does what? Does it mean we have to pledge allegiance still to Germany? France? Kingdoms of past invasions? Denmark?
I thought the liberals hated Empires, silly me. The EU is an empire of sorts isn’t it?
Haha you are a Joke. Not so easy to try and brush over your past… say what you like, your previous will always catch up with you. Ignorance over 'bloodlines? - where have I mentioned bloodlines? A term usually only used by those a little too obsesssed with the ‘purity’of them…is that it ‘bazza’ old boy’? Is that how come you ‘know’ so much? I merely mentioed taht we do inded have a legacy of our invaders in or genotype (the correct term by the way) - I happen to have French, German and a bit of celtic ancestory… ,my genotype proves this… no viking, but then again we cant all be that lucky, and I am happier for it, knowing I dont need to define myself by waving any national flag in your face… just grow up and at least be honest about your views, rather than trying to ‘recruit’ folks over to your opinion by stealth and subtle paranoia. ‘My boy’? really, haha listen to yourself… twat.
I am being honest about my views, your facist insinuations are amusing though, I dont need a flag to show allegience (allegience to what?), all I want is fairness and honesty, our bloodlines are mixed through conquest,on the whole, are you going to seek reparations from your reletives?
Recruit, what are you on about you paranoid bell coming on all over Worldy with I happen to have half yak up my hoop and a viking down the other pipe bollocks, ha ha you whopper get a grip, not of your well oiled liberal vacuum packed Greco Roman love rod but of yourself.
Play some James Galway or something as your facts and patter are shite my boy.
Patter is not my thing as I grew out of the need to try and impress folk during puberty… boy. Your ‘patter’ seems incoherent at best, so not really sure you have a much of a leg to stand on in that respect. I just dont have the patience or tolerance for you and your games.
Dont respond then and if you do don’t give it the Worldly gene bollocks as you sound a tit and if me calling you a rape apologist was wrong without proof what you are doing is the same, or possibly trying to even the tables but as Gandhi said oh I am sure you know you probably walked with him.
You never answer any questions do you? I ieft a few of these ? Up there, do you want skip them know and get back on track of what this thread is about?
Thank you.
And no patter ain’t your thing.
It’s Obamatime.
He lands here today on a convincin’ mission. The main message he’ll have for us is that a Brexit will damage the special relationship. Now perhaps Mr Obama hasn’t been privy to the last 15 years. Perhaps he’s relying on Tony Blair for all his facts about British attitudes, but if anyone has done anything to damage the special relationship, it’s various US administrations.
I take issue with the use of the term and the way the US uses it. We’re one of at least three special relationships, France and Israel being the other two that I know off the top of my head. Now I know that one can have more than one special relationship in one’s personal life. I suppose the big difference is that we don’t tell our best friends that all the time. If someone in your own life threatened withdrawal of a lifelong friendship, especially to get you to act against your own interests, you’d be questioning how much you needed that friendship at all.
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That is assuming Barrack thinks withdrawal is against our own interests… its so easy for these little bits of opinion to slip in there and get presented as almost factual pap… 
One could argue its a bit of ‘ProperGander’ 
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
That is assuming Barrack thinks withdrawal is against our own interests… its so easy for these little bits of opinion to slip in there and get presented as almost factual pap…
Well, only if one were really stretching and has foregone all knowledge of post-war Earth.
Saw an interesting talk today by the chief economist of HSBC. Obviously Brexit was the main topic. This is what I gleaned from it.
44% of our trade is with the EU however that figure has been falling for over 15 years and is projected to do so.
The EU market is stagnant and unlikely to grow soon
The EU does not have trade deals with the US, China or Japan - the worlds largest economies
The predicted growth for the UK on Brexit would fall to 1.25 to 1.5% - numbers half of Europe would give their left nut for
The EU exports to the UK more than the Uk exports to Britain
The terms of any exit only needs to be agreed by a mjority of members - an extention to the 2 yr period under Article 50 require every member to agree
They predict the pound v dollar falling 15% to 20%. Exports are cheaper, however as we import a load of stuff it will likely push inflatio up to as much as 4%.
As we currently have wage growth of about 2% that could make people poorer.
In the last 6 years the UK has created over 2m jobs. 1m of those in the professional and support services sectors (ie not minimum wage or 0 hours)
Thats all I can remember at the moment
The US thinks we have more influence than we actually have in reality.
To show solidarity why don’t the US open their border with and Mexico and lower trade tariffs with other nations?
Hypocrites and what right do they have to question our intentions?
One area of concern about a brexit which I haven’t seen covered anywhere is that it is likely that there is a non-brexit majority in the commons. Even if the people say leave, the Remainer MPs could cause mayhem in the chamber when trying to legislate to leave. I can imagine that the SNP will be causing as much trouble as possible.
On the subject of the SNP, what will happen if say England marginally votes to leave, however the vote in Scotland to remain is so overwhelmingly large it tips the UK into the Remain camp - that won’t cause much friction
I thought they have basically said it will cause them to push harder for another independence referendum. It will, most likely, also make an independence vote more probable.
Maybe I should go join my bff north of the border.
Scotland has the right to decide her fate as she chooses as we do, I wouldn’t hold a grudge against them for doing so, the hypocritical SNP (tartan tories) party crack me up, vote to leave the UK but want to stay in the EU with less say.
Ideological fervour at its finest.
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Good to see the totally positive Out campaign being totally nice and positive once again.
Anyone seen pap, I assume he is somewhere with his head in the sand?
What’s with the Tories either serving or running for London Mayor and this racist shite?
Boris Johnson has written a column for The Sun today, criticising President Obama for arguing that leaving the EU would be bad for Britain. Once again, the buffoonery is on full display.
He starts by claiming that when President Obama entered the White House, a bust of Winston Churchill that had been there for years “vanished”.
But on day one of the Obama administration it was returned, without ceremony, to the British embassy in Washington. No one was sure whether the President had himself been involved in the decision.
Some said it was a snub to Britain. Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan President’s ancestral dislike of the British empire – of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.
Of course, Boris doesn’t say himself say that it was Obama’s part-Kenyan ancestry that drove that decision, he just claims others did.
Boris would never be so crass as to push racist generalisations himself, he is just citing others doing so.
It is especially ridiculous since the claim itself is a myth ; 30 seconds of fact-checking would have confirmed that.
In fact President Obama never got rid of the Churchill bust – it was merely moved to the White House residence. Cameron even went there in 2010 to view it.
The White House itself has debunked this myth extensively.
Here are Obama and Cameron visiting the bust in 2010, in the private residence of the White House
Jon Swaine explained the mixup in the Telegraph in 2012:
The one displayed by Mr Bush was indeed returned, along with all other art lent to him, as his presidency came to an end. The other, which remains in the White House residence, was given as a gift to President Lyndon B Johnson in 1965 by a group of Atlanticist diplomats and military officers.
So, The Sun published a column by Boris without fact-checking whether the main claim is true or not, and Boris blames Obama’s part-Kenyan ancestry for something that didn’t happen.
And this is a man who wants to be our Prime Minister.
Honestly don’t know why you’re being so adversarial on this, KRG. As I’ve said numerous times, I’m not actually that arsed about the outcome. I’ve never claimed that the Leave campaign is entirely positive, so I’m not sure what huge stand it is I’ve taken that you feel duty bound to topple.
The amount of negative stuff I’ve written about Boris makes your stance even more baffling.
Oh c’mon. The pointed jabs are me taking the piss, no harm meant.
But with that, you went in to bat for, and defended Gove’s scaremongering the other day. And made several posts to me and Gay heavily leaning that Leave have run a positive campaign and Remain quite the opposite.
BoJo being BoJo just fell into my lap.
No interest in defending Remain, I’ve never said I’ve been a huge fan of the campaign they have run (though I still do want to know about possible negative impacts - despite that apparently being a bad thing), but it irks me that there’s an idea that Leave have run a positive campaign. It’s utter tosh, and now BoJo has transferred his race baiting from London Mayoral elections straight to the EU.
Felt it worth mentioning, sarcy jabs at you n all 
*sigh* saintsweb could’ve got 20 pages of content out of that dispute. You cunts both backed down in the space of two posts.
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