Eh?
Iâm saying that when he originally hung around with Saville he didnât know the depth of what he was up to. He now seems to be feeling guilty that he hadnât cottoned on to it at the time.
Does that make sense?
Originally posted by @cobham-saint
Originally posted by @pap
Louis Theroux : Savile is on iPlayer.
Theroux did the âwhen Louie met Jimmyâ doc back in the day. Feels guilty for not pressing hard enough at the time.
Well worth his time and yours.
Remember swing the original back I the day. Remember thinking Saville was odd but nothing more - I certainly didnât realise quite how odd he was until the stories and court cases surfaced.
I still have difficultly understanding how prevalent kiddy fiddling was, as it just wasnât something I was aware of. I think that in a similar way Therouxâs latest documentary is trying too hard to cover his naĂŻvetĂ©.
I watched Therouxâs revisiting last night and it was âcar crash horribleâ. I remember it being screened originally and as cob says Savile came across as a slightly creepy oddball. In the '60s when he first surfaced mainstream DJs were clean-cut anyone who didnât conform were catagorised as âeccentricsâ and Savile was one of them.
Cobâs also right about paedo activity, just wasnât on the general publicâs radar. We were a generation that walked to infantâs school with our mates as 6 or 7 year oldsâŠwent out to play on a Saturday morning and got back home at tea-time. Our parentâs gave us free rein through ignorance (?) of the sordid reality. Iâm sure it was out there but the media of the '50 and '60s never reported it so if they were naive it was understandable.
One of the most shocking revalations from last nightâs revisiting is that some of those close to Savile through his work for charitable organisation were still in his power. Still in total denial of this hideous monsterâs real character, that his charitable work was just a front to give access to the vulnerable, that his âgood worksâ in some way was mitigation of the untold damage he did to the defenseless.
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It was a fine and in many ways brave documentary.One memory of Savile which still haunts me a bit when i recall it. In the days after his death when he was âlying in stateâ at, i think, Leeds Town Hall? The six o clock news was covering it and a woman, screaming hysterically, was pummelling her fists on his coffin. She was, of course, unceremoniously dragged out with her heels dragging along the ground and carted away. God alone knows what this monster had done to this poor woman for her to get in such a state.
A really chilling part in last nightâs docu was the look Savile gave Theroux when he was asked how he got hold of Therouxâs ex directory address. âI can get any thing i want, anything at allâ. That and the revelation from his PA that Savile had a direct line to 10 Downing Street and Margaret Thatcher. There can be no doubt that he got away with it for 50 odd years because he was protected by the highest echelons of British society, right up to the Royal Family. His close relationship with Mountbatten makes for interesting reading for anyone who cares to look it up.
There was an article and a bit of a debate in The Telegraph a few days ago previewing the documentary. There was a contribution from a retired Army officer who, back when Sarah Ferguson got engaged to Prince Andrew, applied for a position on Fergusonâs private security detail. There were three people on the interview panel. Sarah Ferguson obviously, a bigwig from the Palace household staff, and ---- Jimmy Savile!! WTF!
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Adam Curtis: Hypernormalization
On BBC iPlayer ⊠very interesting and has a classic line of Gadaffi sugesting he wanted to help free Britain from the rule of that harlet ThatcherâŠ
⊠yet a quite disturbing picture of what the world has become and how it got there. The issues in Syria also put into perspective, and helplessness and hopelessless of the traditional politic - and the rise of fear as the political tool not of the terrorist, but of the disruptive and ambiguous politic of the westâŠ
⊠World is fucked⊠
Talking of documentaries.
Remember Making a Murderer? (Sure we have a threade but cannot find it under TV).
Two of the lawyers are doing a talk on Sunday night at the London Palladium 7pm. I know someone trying to get rid of their tickets as they cannot go. Anyone interested? Tickets are in Southampton but sure that theyâd post them. They were absolutely stung on a stub hub deal but maybe an offer of the face value would be appreciated. Send me a message if interested.
Yes! Adam Curtis is back
Watch it.
too slow Kid⊠too slow 
Is a great doc⊠but left me in a state of miserable helplessnessâŠ
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Iâve watched the Adam Curtis programme and can confirm that it will remove any hope that you may have left.
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I watched it after having a few beers, then didnât get out of bed for 24 hours as there seemed to be no point, and even then only got out of bed to get more beers. Iâm ok now though. I hear âBitter Lakeâ is good?
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Bitter Lake is brilliant. It wonât cheer you up though.
I also watched the Mozzem Begg Storyville documentary on iPlayer. Very interesting. Canât really decide what I think about it all. He was held without trial for years in horrific conditions. That is wrong and dangerous. But his movements are so suspicious that itâs difficult not to believe he was up to no good. His explanations about his beliefs are all plausible and make sense. But its a short step from some of what he says he believes in to some of the more unpleasant sides of fanaticism.
I watched an hour on Sunday and just watched the rest (whilst all the football was on).
Do I have to go to work tomorrow? Seems like a waste really. Could I go live somewhere remote please? Bitter Lake is next on the list.
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This sounds familiar.
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Adam Curtisâ films are not really documentaries more a crossover of opinion piece and long form stuff.
âCentury of the Selfâ⊠Edward Bernais, the birth of marketing and using freudian techniques to keep selling things. Itâs really worth watching 
the act of killing is on sky Atlantic right now. Watch it if youâve never seen it.
Iâm waiting for Question Time. Farage and Will Self
Thanks mate 
Someone watches my documentary links
53.50 and onwards