:covid_19: 😷 🏥 Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ❓

The one thing about listening to Dr John Campbell’s daily briefings is that he always gives the sources from which he reports. Of course he will use his own wide field of expertise to explain but the facts of this Pandemic come from trusted medical sources. As for the AZ efficacy row that has blown up suggests political interference. Dr John’s take on it from a couple of days ago…

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Yep, he does it properly citing all published sources and clearly articulates when he is adding his own perspective or opinion… He is excellent

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“weasel political words” - just about sums it up

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Barry, is that you?

I think that’s a bit of a stretch, but saying I trust AZ and Oxford Uni more than the Russian’s or Chinese is not exactly an exceptional position…

The Russian vaccine looks effective according to new peer-reviewed data published today
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/fulltext

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On BBC Radio4 news at one they asked a representative from the Russian embassy if the announcement of Sputnik Vs record breaking achievement of 91.6% efficacy was down to Navalny’s court appearance today. He replied,“no, it is down to The Lancet printing this today”.
BBC state propagandist left floundering with egg all over face.

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The report you linked readily describes the involvement of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation also.

The parent company of the KHF publication I posted gets its funding from numerous foundations including weirdly…the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

It’s not complex. It’s yet another example amongst the plethora of others of the public funding the research and taking the risk whilst private companies take the profits.

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I don’t care what the research says. It’s made by evil Russkies who are simultaneously incapable of doing anything right yet also a massive threat who could outwit and overwhelm our defences at a moment’s notice.

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Unexceptional positions are popular amongst unexceptional people.

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Fuck you Covid

BBC News - Covid-19: Captain Sir Tom Moore dies with coronavirus

If you hear hooves, think horses, not zebra’s, m’kay.

Is pandemic spelt the same way in Poland and does it mean the same as it does in English?

I never had you down as a fan of the horses hoof.

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Is that the same as the camels toe? :thinking:

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Iron hoof?

No in both cases there is no citation of sources … that is the issue. I dont have an agenda on this apart from trying to get folks to look at the actual evidence, rather than treating opinion pieces and ‘reports’ that dont cite sources as fact. We need to treat all information we receive from MSM or not with the SAME level of scrutiny if we want determine facts from bullshit… its not difficult

Truth is, even if we dont like it… Without private sector involvement, we would not be where we are with the vaccines. Given the cost of AZ vaccine at £4 a pop means at double dose everyone in UK, cost is approx £260m = add in a few extra quid for the pfizer vaccine cost and distribution lets say 500m… which is nothing relative to the 175bn annual NHS budget or covered two weeks worth of EU contributions we no longer have to pay…

Worrying about private investors making money post pandemic when they invested in the solution seems churlish at best…

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Oh great.
Polsat here just done an expose.
Found a BLACK MARKET source selling “fake Pfizer”
They sent it for testing at Government labs and is “almost” identical to the real thing.
At the moment they believe it is made here by organised crime, but are worried it could be coming out of “fake” specialists in China.

Fake Vaccines :man_facepalming:

Shit storm started here need to see what the stuff actually is and any effects

Dangerous. One jab of that could leave you with a two-week hard on. :flushed: