:covid_19: 😷 šŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ā“

Lock down to at least 22nd Feb (it will be longer - that’s just the date of the next update). Schools shut until at least march.

Can you imagine where we’d be if:-

  • We’d locked down earlier
  • We stopped public events
  • Strict quarantines on international travellers
  • While in lockdown, track and trace developed properly

I genuinely think we could have had the lot done in three months.

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Covid: Wrexham vaccine plant evacuated over suspicious package - BBC News

Now they are sending letter bombs to knacker our effort (maybe)

Who are they?

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Yeah and everyone would still be fucking moaning about it. ā€œIt was too soonā€, ā€œWe didn’t need to be that draconianā€, ā€œLook at enter name of any other country, they don’t need to lock down like we doā€.

Trouble is everyone has good ideas in hindsight. Take a look at Guernsey. Lockdown total. No-one in, no-one out without very close supervision. Covid free for weeks. Suddenly out of the blue 61 cases all stemming from 1 school kid who hadn’t set foot out of the island.

There is no right answer, just an excuse for everyone to moan and fucking moan about how shit the government is.

And yes, before you ask, it is a shit day today. But I feel better now. SCD xx

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The problem is that people had ideas in foresight, and while they were good ideas, you didn’t have to be Einstein to conjure them, especially as other countries were busy implementing them.

I think there is a right answer. It’s called New Zealand. While it’s a much smaller country it does share many geographical and demographic similarities. We’re both islands, we both have an urban population of around 85%. Jacinda took a completely different path from the start, and seems to be the only Western leader to have gotten it right.

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Three months is possibly slightly ambitious, but you are absolutely correct with the four things you listed. I would also add Johnson’s weakness and cowardice in refusing to even reprimand Cummings when he opened the floodgates of non compliance with lockdown to the list. Indeed, far from reprimanding him, he led the charge in supporting him. This was the point when the government lost control of the messaging, and is a major factor in where we are today.

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BoJo at PMQs saying that schools are absolutely safe and they should be opened, and then in the next breath we have a new conference tonight saying schools to remain shut until 8th March!!

On the ā€œschools be safeā€ thing, tell that to my wife and daughters and about half a dozen other families that all contracted Covid due to a couple of pupils in their class/school. Remember this is a SEN school as well, the parent sent their child in to school when they were showing Covid symptoms…

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I was being silly re the EU

So how is that BoJo’s problem Bob ? Unfortunately its indicative of the general attitude of ā€œdon’t give a fuckā€ which is (IMHO) the reason we’re still in this mess. The whole argument about too early, too late, not enough blah blah is futile when there are people like this in our society. They’re everywhere … even Cummings.

Helen works in a school in a deprived area of Lowestoft so we are also living it. It’s amazing how stupid parents (and teaching staff I hasten to add) are when faced with rules that the general population seem to understand. We have a society that is more focused on how to bend the rules than how to live with the rules.

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Have to agree with that point. The virus spreads through people being in proximity to other people.

We should rightly blame the Govt for some / several / many (delete depending on your point of view) major errors.

But even now, 10 months and 100k deaths on, police are breaking up parties, large funerals, facing protestors without masks, dealing with maskless people in shops and on public transport and on and on. FFS people. Blame the Govt for some of it, yes, but people are also to blame

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Couldn’t agree more, just highlighting that schools will only be safe as long as people stick to the rules and use their common sense.

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We’re doomed LOL

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I have made a career out of relying on the fact that ā€œcommon senseā€ is not that common

The one thing missing from every level of education.
When asked at interviews about my post grad qualifications I just say i got a degree in
The Bloody Obvious.

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I think she makes a valid point though. He’s not going to achieve anything that he couldn’t do via Zoom etc

One rule for Johnson and one rule for everyone else - forget all the clap-trap of the PM needing to have a physical presence to peddle whatever he’ll be peddling.

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He is going up by bike??

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Well done, you got it :+1::joy:

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Let’s all take a minute to congratulate the new Conservative MP for the red wall seat of Bassetlaw, Brendan Clarke-Smith, leading light in the ERG and CRG, vociferous opponent of foodbanks and free school dinners for hungry children. Aged 40 and in robust health, he has managed to jump the queue for the first Covid vaccinations, thanks to selflessly volunteering for an afternoon at his local hospital, where coincidentally his wife works as a doctor.
He got one of those jabs that were"left over and would have gone to waste". Presumably there were no nurses, porters, ward cleaners etc available to receive it!

Local bookies have stopped taking bets on him being overcome by an uncontrollable urge to volunteer for another afternoon of good works in three weeks time. Like Stanley Johnson, Rupert Murdoch and the rest of our betters, there will be no waiting 12 weeks(if we’re lucky), for him.
Don’t forget chaps, we’re all in it together!

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She would say that even if there was no pandemic

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