:covid_19: 😷 šŸ„ Corona Virus the thread for all your fears ā“

Obviously the company you keep

It’s all my anti-vaccer, Tory supporting chums

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Just reminding you how Boris got there. It wasn’t because everyone thought he and the Tories were suddenly great.

They voted for the Tories because they were the only party offering to hold up the 2016 result.

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It’s the needles I can’t stand

Mix the vaccine with beer and I’m all in

Begone to the Brexit thread foul fiend…

:wink:

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Are we even asking the right questions? Or trying to solve the right problem?

For me, it’s not about getting back to where we were, which is a devotion to jobs so slavish that the slaves are in love with their contracts and believe that jobs are good. As the last six months have shown, not everybody needs to be in an office, not everyone needs to work.

It’s not about getting back to where we were before. It’s building something that will allow us to cope if this ever happens again. Our system of governnment, our systems of procurement and our systems of service provision have all utterly fucking failed.

If you are happy to give the likes of Serco £100m plus to run a track and trace system on Excel, fair play to you, but calling the government out for continued incompetence, especially when the consequences are so deadly, is justified.

And the worst thing of all? There is fuck all else to vote for that could get in.

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This statement is correct however the way to do this is evolution - it gives the economy the chance to adjust to the new world order. Covid has given us revolution - everything changes right now - as a result a lot of people are going to experience a lot of pain

Evolution is good but it is so slow, what C19 has done is speed up the IT evolution, people have been forced to work from home, companies have been forced to implement the work from home solutions.

Personally, for me, it’s a win win situation…

From an IT perspective I agree, but if you consider the ā€œPretā€ economy, an evolution would have allowed a slow, controlled redeployment of labour, whereas covid basically fucked it up the ass. Now it’s debatable if pret adds anything to the world, but the people who work there are the ones who ultimately get shafted by the WFH. Evolution would have at least given them an opportunity to ease themselves into a different sector

90% of my company work from home. Can go into the office if they want - especially those who can’t or won’t work at home

We’re not going back to 100% office based regardless.

We are stuck with long leases, but income has been growing as has productivity.

All of the old dinosaurs have been proved wrong that people can’t be trusted working remotely - in my organisation at least and we’re investing in full and proper kit for everyone who works remotely.

It helps that we’re a Partnership so none of those pesky shareholders to pay do dividends to.

It’s a bugger to mange people remotely though.

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It’s interesting- I guess it depends on industries. I work in sales - we gave people the option and at least 80% came to the office - horses for courses I guess

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My area is employee health and wellbeing / employee benefits. So I guess covid has been a dream come true

Actually all of a sudden companies who wouldn’t have pissed on us if we were on fire want to talk to us, so we don’t need a sales force :wink:

Would I be wrong in saying that you have a young sales force, millennial and social media savvy etc?

I’ve found that that this is the main age group that want to be in the office to mix - Ironic because most spend most their time on social media…and also tend to be the least productive. Ok, that’s a generalisation but those in my part of the business who were swinging the lead pre-covid are in that group and were first to want to go back.

The more this progresses, the more I actually believe that the biggest problem we face is the belief we will ā€œget back to normalā€.
It is an evolution, policy has to evolve (but could do with some brains & wisdom)
Medical Care has to evolve.
Jobs are evolving many will be lost
Trying to get back to normal is causing as much harm as good.
Students now causing outbreaks when they leave high school/university.
The world is changing. We all need to go with it

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I’ve embraced the change - especially when we had lockdown. I suddenly wasn’t able to mix with people I had to pretend to like - A Covid bonus :+1:

I’m sure it was mutual.

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It would be impossible for me to work remotely but the travel restrictions in place are causing havoc in the offshore oil & gas industry. which is why I have not been home for seven months and some colleagues have been at home for six plus months. This will also cause an increase in nationisation of the workforce. Not a bad thing in it self and I am now training my replacement. Although I was going to be moved to West Africa in August that was halted due to visa issues for my Danish replacement so will be staying in Malaysia a little longer.

We have a mixed bag

Those keenest to return were those living in one bed flats, the nippers and new fathers

Lol :smile::smile:

Thats what I can never understand about people who work offshore wanting to be home just after baby is born.
Its a two legged shitting puking machine it does not care who cleans it stay offshore go home when it is 4 or 5 (years​:grinning::grinning:) months old and everybody is happy.

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I am so glad I had my kids early. They are now in their 20s. They are unlikely to milling about in the background saying they need a shit, or bawling.

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I am sure the fuckers have told their wives that I’m a complete arsehole and have demanded that they come to the office come what may

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