When part of your preparation for going to war involves meetings with oil companies, you really should question your motivation for the conflict - alarm bells should be ringing loudly in your personal integrity dept.
If you have one.
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Well they sat on the fence.
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Sorry. That bullshit from Blair made me want to vomit.
At the time even I knew Sadam was no risk, I knew he was a man suffering from small Penis syndrome. In fact I had to write a report to Bush luv vies at our then Corporate HQ.
But it wasnât just me, at the time, (that was a frivolous comment but I did make that report) numerous former British Ambassadors in this region were trying to say the same.
Ffs Hans Blix said the same
The FACT is when Blair says he acted on the information he had at the time, he MEANS he acted on the information he WANTED to read.
And I am so going to trash this fone because it refuses to accept b liar as a real word.
And has anyone explained today just WHAT breach of UN 1414 b liar decided to believe had been breached?
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If only Blair and Bush had listened to Dubai Phil.
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Heard Bliar on radio earlier today trying to justify the decision to go to war - just from the tone of his voice I thought he was floundering & looking for anything that could extract him from the shit. I think he may be starting to realise his chickens are coming home to roost.
I generally donât wish ill on people although in his case Iâll make an exception.
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If only theyâd listened to you but youâd most likely bored them to death with some turgid bolloxs about golf.
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So without coughing the ÂŁ767 to buy the report or read through a morass of crap in the press , can someone tell me if they have managed to nAil that smug cunt to the mast.
Everyone in the world knows the fucker is guilty as sin*
*Except Tony Blair
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So Question Time is going to be huge tonight.
George Galloway is going to be on. Canât imagine him holding back.
Think theyâre a bit over-egging the âtroops was under-equippedâ angle. We was over there like 4 yrs or whatever, and only 179 of our bros died, and most of them was from urinary tract infection. Iraq army must be v.pathetic, seems to me we couldâve worn underpants and neckscarves, and still been OK.
I was listening, to adopt the Bear lingo, to one of the American bros on Radio 4 and got very wound up.
The dude was basically saying âyo, we invaded the place but we didnât decide to drill peopleâs heads offâ.
Except, they did. Or at least they contributed to the post-conflict chaos. I will never forget the case of the two SAS soldiers, picked up by local and newly initiated Iraqi forces, driving a car with a boot full of IEDs, dressed as fucking Arabs with beards to boot, caught planting bombs.
They were fucking nicked, me olâ beauty.
Except, they werenât.
The Iraqi officials were really digging their heels in when it came to giving these people up, so what we did is flattened the police station they were being held in by rolling over it
In a tank. Because thatâs how you spread democracy.
Some of the same CIA officials involved in setting up death squads in Central America quickly got to work in Iraq.
I think the 139 currently MPâs should be removed/held accountable?
https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/43037/Which+current+MPs+voted+for+the+Iraq+War%3F
Theresa May is one of them!
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Thanks Sfcsim. Nicked and shared on Twitter.
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Nah, they voted in good faith, well many of them, on the facts they were given. Itâs the senior ministers of the time that should carry the can, not backbenchers of any shade.
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To be fair all that voted were lied to by Bliar. Not that I condone them voting for it.
Rather than try to bring down those MPâs for simply being gullible it would make more sense to pursue Bliar as a war criminal?
just an opinion.
I find that even more worrying, that they voted to go to war, but with very little facts. Bit like the referendum. But this is going to war. I would want to see some hard evidence! It is so fucked up!
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I was in Parliament on business the day David Kelly was found dead. I had been in the pleasant company of a couple of committed civil servants for a couple of days. The change on them was palpable, and one of the first things suggested was that David Kelly had been murdered, and not by me.
It wasnât phrased in such impolitic terms, but the message was clear.
Thatâs anecdotal of course. Somewhat less so is the (at least) two million that didnât buy the casus belli either.
Now if long-term civil servants and two million of the general public suspect foul play, either in the events leading up to the war, or the justification for it, itâd be a huge worry if the thought had never occurred to our elected representatives.
And there it is, the word âsuspectâ. None of the MPâs were given the truth on which to make any sort of decision other than the one they did.
The 2million (of which I was one) had no real proof that Bliar was lying to us - although we suspected it.
Iâm sure you can quote all sort of facts to back up your arguments but itâs with the benefit of hindsight, which is easy. At the time I think it was a lot less simplistic.
Watching Question Time - Bliarâs reputation is getting a mauling.
As much as I dislike Galloway heâs playing a blinderâŚ