When we signed Ings it was essentially always a permanent deal. It was an initial loan simply to push the payment of the fee back 12 months. It was always an obligation to buy. A four year deal from the outset in essence.
It was essentially a loan as that was what it was.
Read this Baz.
Southampton Football Club is delighted to announce it has completed the deadline-day signing of Liverpool striker Danny Ings.
The Southampton-born 26-year-old joins on a season-long loan, ahead of a permanent move next summer.
I donât need to, it says Ings joins on season long loan in the header.
Youâre not really helping yourself.
You of all people should appreciate that it was simply a means of offsetting payment of a significant transfer fee. Because we are skint arenât we 
We digress Ings was on loan when he first played for Southampton, there shouldnât be (its because its Barry) any argument on that.
Is Theo Walcott on loan or a permanent signing?
The loan was a technicality. The moment he put pen to paper he was effectively permanent as there was no way for anyone to back out.
The only aspect was him not being able to play against Liverpool.
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So technically he was on loan and not a Southampton player but a Liverpool one still?
He is a loan.
Hughes was at the club when the permanent signing of Ings was agreed - at the beginning of the loan.
THAT is the fact and has nothing to do with you that is saying it.
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You asked if Hughes had him. He did. I also said Hughes brought Ings to Saints. Not bought. He did.
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Are you saying when Ings signing was made permanent Hughes was Southampton manager?
FML Barry. Are you being deliberately difficult or do you genuinely not understand what Iâm saying?
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On loan and how long did Hughes have him for and how many games did he play under him?
Youâre missing this bit (cognitive dissonance).
I think that could be reversed, if Walcott is a loan with a view to a buy what is the difference for Ings?
It was a formality that heâd be signed permanently after the initial loan. So the permanent transfer was already agreed from the outset.
Saints simply couldnât afford to pay ÂŁ20m at that point. So offset the cost to the following year.
Compare this to Aldeweireld⌠Spurs snuck in because we only had an option to buy. Not a permanent deal agreed from the outset, to automatically become permanent the following year.
The fact is Ings had agreed a four year deal with Saints from the outset.
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Hello. I need someone to dig a big hole for me. And then keep digging.
Any suggestions?
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