Career advice

Had another opportunity come my way. Bit further out. An hour’s commute each day. I’m not super-keen for that and a reason unrelated to the client, but they sent me some assessment to do the other night. Delivered it this morning, got a call this afternoon asking if I can do a telephone interview tomorrow. The agent wasn’t keeping his cards to his chest. “They’re in love with you, basically”.

Fksake. All I did was suggest how one might sanely integrate six fucking off the shelf systems into a cohesive whole :lou_lol:

This is a classic approach - they want to see how you deal with ambiguity - most client problems or needs are never straight forward and the key skill is problem solving - in structured way… and they dont want stock prepped answers from the web either. Prepping facts so you know about the company and its business is one thing… and fair, but trying to prep for questions where they are expecting you to assess the problem and come up with a reasonable approach is another… its not about the solution, there is no expectation that you would be able to find a soution in 10 minutes… what is more important is the way in which you deal with it and structure your solution development. I suspect that they spot the stock preppped answer… never a winner

The test I got over the weekend was full of unknowns, CF.

I spent time pointing them out and saying that elements of the solution may change as we know about more of them.

If I’d have even pretended to say “yeah, I know what I’m doing with everything”, I’d have never been asked back; it just wasn’t possible with what they gave me. Incomplete information is a near constant problem across most disciplines. You can be damned sure firms want people who know how to deal with it.

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For sure. For all their reputation as being the ‘nice’ one of the Big 4, I found the interview tougher than PwC’s one, which was entirely competency-based.

Did the on-site interview. Quietly confident. Would probably be the best coder there if I joined.

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Working alone?

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Originally posted by @Goatboy

Originally posted by @pap

Did the on-site interview. Quietly confident. Would probably be the best coder there if I joined.

Working alone?

Nah, the old skills just haven’t atrophied as much as they might have.

Just did the other interview I have planned. I could go to a second interview this week ( they said they’ll pay me to attend! ) but need to suss out how the first goes first.

Done; start Monday.

After thinking I might not have a job after Christmas, I’ve now got two until the New Year.

Further career advice; don’t take any shit you don’t have to :lou_smiley:

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Bet Mrs pap is adding to her Christmas list as we speak :lou_wink_2:

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ms pap buys all the Christmas presents. It’s one of the few things we have organised.

I sit there as bemused as the kids.

However, Chez Pap exists in a state of celebration tonight. The whole house thinks I’m a job god right now. You’ve been here.

They normally think I’m a twat.

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Give it a couple of weeks and it’ll be back to normal.

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Congratulations!

What’s the pay? :lou_lol:

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Come on, you can’t ask that…

Weeks? For fuck’s sake’s mate.

In a very recent argument about the relative sparsity of Android chargers in Chez Pap, she uttered the words “buy some fucking chargers, dickhead”.

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Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Originally posted by @MrTrampoline

Originally posted by @pap

Done; start Monday.

After thinking I might not have a job after Christmas, I’ve now got two until the New Year.

Further career advice; don’t take any shit you don’t have to :lou_smiley:

Congratulations!

What’s the pay? :lou_lol:

Come on, you can’t ask that…

Fourteen percent increase on present rate.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Charging-Multi-Port/dp/B00VTI8K9K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481655587&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+port

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Originally posted by @Goatboy

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Charging-Multi-Port/dp/B00VTI8K9K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481655587&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+port

Bought two, plus ten wires.

Well recommended, GB.

Seems TheMightyOstrich was right.

Have you had a guess at what Pap earns yet so you can add 14%?

Bet you nothing at all you have.

Next time put the congratulations in a post by itself. Wait 10 minutes, then still don’t ask.

Being fair to MrTramp, I’m sure he was having a joke at his own expense there.

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I’m just twatting around and making an obviously self-deprecating joke ffs chill out.

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