Rule number 1 - Don’t believe 99.9% of politicians.
Are you trying to tell me that Fatso is a politician…fuck, he fooled me!
Galloway having a stormer on QT, he is an outer, is he a racist? Benn? Skinner? Politically immature and naive whoppers.
Having left the UK permanently some years ago, it is with deep regret and sadness that I see the current state of affairs in the land of my youth. No EU and a barely functioning right wing tory government and an about to self- destruct opposition. It looks to me as if your prospects are on a par with those of the early war years, but I can’t for the life of me see where the cavalry is coming from this time.
Originally posted by @Rallyboy
Many people didn’t understand the question.
Many didn’t connect their own lives to the national economy.
A significant number were blatantly racist.
A few regret the way they voted as they didn’t grasp what could happen with regard to their own money, the loss of EU funding, national security, trade deals, and even a rise in hate crimes as the far right wrongly took the result as a pointer that half the country is with them.
Many feel they were misled by the campaigns of Johnson and Farage.
Some are billionaire opportunist gamblers who love a recession - they are making a killing.
A handful are still pretending they are happy but you can see in their eyes they know they’ve fucked up.
A couple are still in denial about the link between their vote and the immediate effect of it.
At least one keeps standing up wanting to defend the campaign, and then moans because he gets people knocking him down with facts.
But we are getting what the country demanded -
A fucked economy that will trickle down into every trade and community, the withdrawal of workers’ rights, a legal system that needs decades of work, an NHS that we can’t staff, and to top it all, we could soon become an irrelevant little island just off Europe.
No frothing, no hysteria, just my own honest summary - so if you are considering writing something childish in response, don’t bother with the insults.
Just a quick thing, I know I flippantly mentioned it earlier, but do you not think that a lot of the ‘worthwhile’ regulations forced on us by the EU will be replicated anyway, like workers rights? I would have thought so myself.
They’re more than welcome to that opinion.
But that’s what the residual bitter Remain vote boils down to, isn’t it?
“We know better than you”
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @TheCholulaKid
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Bucks
Originally posted by @pap
Which begs the question.
If these claims are so laughable, why do you think Leave fell for them?
poeple who voted Leave are best placed to answer this Pap
I’m posing the question, ta.
Why do you think Leave fell for them?
Say it out loud. It’ll be some form of release.
I think people are saying it’s all your fault and you’re a thick argumentative cunt, Pap. That’s what I think they’re saying.
They’re more than welcome to that opinion.
But that’s what the residual bitter Remain vote boils down to, isn’t it?
“We know better than you”
No, it’s more like ‘We don’t want to play roulette with the countries future.’
It also surprises me that someone who has spent so much time criticising the current government for benefits cuts and the increase in use of food banks, would vote for something that is most likely to exacerbate those issues.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
No, it’s more like ‘We don’t want to play roulette with the countries future.’
Unfortunately for your camp, 52% are somewhat braver and optimistic in their outlook.
I’m also amused at your increased standing post-Brexit. What games were you playing with the country’s future before?
It also surprises me that someone who has spent so much time criticising the current government for benefits cuts and the increase in use of food banks, would vote for something that is most likely to exacerbate those issues.
As you’ve implicitly said, the problem exists anyway. If you genuinely believe that another 40 years of market-led rules enshrined at supra-national levels is the way forward for this country, more power to you.
Personally, I want a framework in which it’s possible to start moving policy back the other way. For that, we need a Labour government, much likelier now that this Achilles heel has been addressed. Under the EU, said Labour government would have to get the assent of 27 other member states to start repealing some of the legislation to enact the public works programmes, with no guarantee that we’ll ever be able to.
What on earth was the EU doing in the last six years to protect UK citizens from the indifferent malice of the Conservative-led governments?
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
No, it’s more like ‘We don’t want to play roulette with the countries future.’
Unfortunately for your camp, 52% are somewhat braver and optimistic in their outlook.
hahaha Sarb is such chicken Bwaaark! Bwaaaark! I don’t think roulette is right anyway, you can’t bet on Red cos red is socialism which is EU, and you can’t bet on black, cos black is immigration which is also EU. I think we’re more playing 3-Card Brag.
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
No, it’s more like ‘We don’t want to play roulette with the countries future.’
Unfortunately for your camp, 52% are somewhat braver and optimistic in their outlook.
I’m also amused at your increased standing post-Brexit. What games were you playing with the country’s future before?
There’s a difference between bravery and recklessness that I don’t think you understand.
It also surprises me that someone who has spent so much time criticising the current government for benefits cuts and the increase in use of food banks, would vote for something that is most likely to exacerbate those issues.
As you’ve implicitly said, the problem exists anyway. If you genuinely believe that another 40 years of market-led rules enshrined at supra-national levels is the way forward for this country, more power to you.
Personally, I want a framework in which it’s possible to start moving policy back the other way. For that, we need a Labour government, much likelier now that this Achilles heel has been addressed. Under the EU, said Labour government would have to get the assent of 27 other member states to start repealing some of the legislation to enact the public works programmes, with no guarantee that we’ll ever be able to.
What on earth was the EU doing in the last six years to protect UK citizens from the indifferent malice of the Conservative-led governments?
In other words, continued collateral damage is fine as long as you voted for it. Sounds about right for you Pap.
I think Pap’s probably playing shithead…
Originally posted by @BTripz
Originally posted by @Bathsaint
- The biggest misleading statement ever – we’re going to save £350m a week. Lolololol
I think this was disproved so may time by so many people that if anyone still believes it then they really are stupid
Oi, that’s half my wife’s family up in Derbyshire that you’re calling really stupid
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
In other words, continued collateral damage is fine as long as you voted for it. Sounds about right for you Pap.
Meh. Your troll game is shit, brah.
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
In other words, continued collateral damage is fine as long as you voted for it. Sounds about right for you Pap.
Meh. Your troll game is shit, brah.
Not trolling at all. You have spent the past couple of years criticising the Conservative government (and the people that voted for them) for the increased use of food banks, yet now you’ve voted for something that could well see that increase, you’re all like “The problem exists anyway”.
Fucking cop out from the ultimate hypocrite.
The referendum vote was Remain or Leave.
There’s no policy beyond that, and as we’ve seen, no plan beyond that. We’re trying to sort that out now.
That’s a different thing from knowingly voting for a benefit cap when you’ve already seen the results in the first Parliament.
This is one area of policy which can be implemented in any number of ways.
If you’re looking for someone to blame, how about looking at the pig fucker you voted for back in 2015?
This referendum was his gamble at resolving the deep splits in the Conservative Party. Like almost everything else they’ve touched, it turned to shit.
While I’m reluctant to agree with something from Tebbit and Thatcher’s lovechild Chertsey, you cannot distance yourself from how you use your vote and what happens next.
Voting Leave was a vote for recession, it was a vote for austerity and job losses, a vote to reduce EU funding to deprived areas - a shortfall that experience tells you will never be funded by a UK government.
Just because it didn’t say all of that on the ballot, people cannot ignore the link to what happens as a direct result.
If you voted Leave you voted for everything that life outside the EU would bring - and as a bonus, Leavers also found themselves sat in a huge team photo with sensible people + bigoted pensioners and the dangerously far right.
That mix might have set alarm bells ringing.
Which is why a few of us still can’t grasp what became of caring leftie Pap on that day…
But the bottom line is, voters should take responsibility for their vote and everything it leads to.
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We’ll leave you with an image of a man who’ll get a £5400 monthly pension, from the EU, for life. So *he’s* fine.
We are taking responsibility, Rallyboy, or at least I am.
There’s a huge fucking difference between doing that, which is constructive, and blaming, which gets you nothing but upvotes on Sotonians, it would seem.
I’m taking responsibility for the post-Brexit situation. I’m going to work with it, make the best of it and quite frankly, try to exploit it to achieve wider ends.
I’m responsible in that sense, but I’m not to blame for say, internal decisions of the Tory party.
Perhaps it’s time for the rest of you to start taking a bit of responsibility. When your fingers aren’t in your ears, they’re pointing at someone else. Once again, it’s the wrong people, but hey, as we’ve already sarcastically said, blaming works. Really it does.
Sorry RB. I just find your calls for responsibility difficult to reconcile with the tantrums.
Brilliant. Love the “not me 'guv” attitude.
Unbelievable.