Yes it was and your point is?
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @hoofinruth
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
And using Mishcon de Reya is harfdly the best example, havenât they been mentioned in the Panama papers? Ha ha I always knew the remainers were big corps, tax dodgers and London elites but this takes the biscuit.
The law firm cited in the Panama Papers was Mossack Foneseca
Yes it was and your point is?
As Barry is unlike most, I wonât jump down your throat and will let you explain yourself, Barry in the 3rd person is a very fair and kindly man, most on here donât know their arse from their elbow mind.
Soz about lack of comment in last post. Fat fingers and small mobileâŚ
Pap - given that âDoggerlandâ is now under the North Sea, would it theoretically be âoursâ or a Johnny foreigner state?
Prince Charles â@ Charles_HRH 3m3 minutes ago
David Cameron, Boris Johnson, and Nigel Farage have all stepped down from their parties. At least thatâs the new Top Gear presenters sorted.
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It belongs to Sebastian the crab. He holds dominion there now.
Thatâs not helpful, I know.
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Farage has probably resigned because he wants to spend more time with his German wife, before she gets deported. 
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Regarding Boris, i still donât see why he pulled out of the contest, he didnât have to. He would almost certainly have won comfortably against the likes of May, Gove or Leadsome. Looking at his body language after the referendum result was announced, he was clearly stunned. He wasnât expecting to win, or even allowed for it. The whole charade was all about his career. Remember that until relatively recently he was always mainly pro-europe, certainly more so than Cameron. Suddenly he had to deal with the realities of a Brexit result and he didnât have a clue what to do next. Luckily for him Gove snatched the poisoned chalice from his hand and sprinted off with it. Boris breaths a sigh of relief, mops his brow and says,âthank fuck for thatâ. The only other possible scenario is that Gove, as an ex chief whip, and by extension his sponsor, Murdoch, have something so dark on Boris regarding his much discussed car crash of a personal life, that Boris had no choice,(if he knows whatâs good for him). The metaphorical horseâs head in the bed. On balance i tend to plump for the first scenario but i certainly wouldnât rule out the latter. No one ever went broke over estimating the capabilities of Members of Parliament, of all colours, with a few honourable exceptions, to prove themselves complete and utter duplicitous self serving bastards.
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It would be a good game, guessing the dirt that Murdoch, et al have on BJ. If Cameron can brush off the revelations of sticking his nob into a dead pig, then it must be pretty raw stuff to put him off his lifelong ambition!
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As I understand it, whilst Boris was very popular with the masses he is not so popular amongst Tory MPs or the Tory membership.
This surprised me.
Add to this the fact that the election of a new leader in the Tory party seems to start by MPs first whittling down the candidates to two which are then put before the membership.
I imagine that it is this initial process that he felt he would not survive.
That said, I could quite easily believe that others are pulling his puppet strings - or theyâve cut them.
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I just thought that he didnât want to deal with the fallout. Let some other sucker do that and heâll pop along again in a few years to take his rightful throne.
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Especially if Gove is seen as the backstabber and BJ can play the injured party card. Same goes for Farage. He will be back in a few years, saying that whatever happens was a complete ballsup and would never have happened if he was around to influence brexit negotiations.
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Regarding the lack of balance (the video doesnât look at the deception from the Remain side), he makes it clear at the start that he is only setting out to answer only the lies and deceptions he saw on the Remain side. Within that context, I felt he approached it in a pretty balanced way.
The answer regarding his claims about Cameronâs deal, is that I donât know off the top of my head.
I think this is definitely an area of subjectivity.
The results of Camerionâs renegotiation are analysed here:
here
and here
Iâve skimmed the Guardian and BBC reports and they seem to suggest that there was substantive movement from the EU to our needs, but they also recognise that in other areas Cameron didnât get what he wanted.
Iâd be interested to see what you feel.
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I wonder how often after a hard fought victory like this so many of the main victorious protagonists back down from positions of power? You would think that they would be delighted to get in there and make something of this new GREAT Britain that they have been going on about for weeks. Oh wellâŚ
On a different subject, I caught a bit on morning TV this morning about a suggestion that we have an Independence Day Bank Holiday every year in celebtation of the marvellous Brexit event. Seriously WTF? Independence Day? Did I miss something? Have we been a colony of the might EU all these years? If people want to talk about independence, perhaps they would be better off talking to people who understand what it was like to live in India or any other of our colonies when we had an Empire and what happened when they finally gained their indepenence. I would say that there was quite a bit of difference and to pretend that Brexit is anything like on the same scale shows once more how ignorant the whole Brexit ideology is in some quarters.
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Henry Smith MP â@ HenrySmithMP 7h7 hours ago
Seriously, have just received email from EU Commission employee located in Brussels demanding as # Crawley MP I vote to cancel UK referendum!
From the Guardian and BBC, Bletch some balance please ha ha!
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
From the Guardian and BBC, Bletch some balance please ha ha!
The Telegraph, Bazza?
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Originally posted by @TheCholulaKid
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
From the Guardian and BBC, Bletch some balance please ha ha!
The Telegraph, Bazza?
A pro tory paper backing Cameron.whatever next, he got nothing back from Brussels and thatâs the reason we are here or one of them.
People also conveniently miss what Juncker said two days before the vote (nothing will get reformed now as Cameron has got the best anyone could have got), this swayed an awful lot of people and its one that needs looking into more, why hasnât it?
Biased media? You betcha.
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Very true and I have been saying that for years and years and years, the shitholes like Burnley, Oldham, and many many others have been forgotten about and this was their chance and by bollocks did they take it, I salute them regardless of thier persuasions as they have been shat on for generations. I have been to these places and trust me there is nothing to compare to it down south, nothing at all.
Pompey?