Resignations tomorrow then, or will the big mouths fail to stand by their principles?
We can only hope.
Folks regress to extremes in protest⌠financial system gets fucked, austerity follows, folks go for more authoritarian right wing leadership or in other instances more leftist extremes⌠itâs not more centrist and moderate policy that is the problem but the legacy of good old fashioned greed creating an unstable and unsustainable global financial system⌠but those who are more obsessed, zealot like towards party policy and thus think any evolution to suit an evolved environment as âselling outâ just prevent parties from truely being fit for purpose in todayâs society⌠the same archaic shit that left Labour unelectable for 18 years⌠party members who put their own ideological faith ahead of a recognition that itâs no longer reflective of todayâs needs.
OK two it is - only because you asked so nicely @Saint-or-sinner
I have absofuckingloutely no idea and it has fuck all bearing on the dogs-dinner that Brexit is turning into.
My favourite word of the day is shadenfreude - but Iâll probably get told off for using it because it is GermanâŚ
Iâve given up caring how it turns out tbh - weâll live with it whatever it turns out to be- but am enjoying watching arguments and certainties crumble. (I didnât have me down as a vindictive cunt, but hey, you learn something new about yourself every now and again)
Will that do ya?
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It has to get through Parliament first.
This is really where the rubber hits the road, people. I suspect that MPs like Chuka Unumna are going to rebel, safe in the knowledge that Streatham wonât blame âem, but itâs going to be a much harder choice for many of the Labour MPs considering the Leave-votinâ nature of their constituents.
Some of those will rebel anyway, but many will think about the cushy job, the status and the fact theyâve got great career prospects, even if that tops out at a 78K UKP p.a. plus expenses minimum wage.
I suspect many will see the political opportunity in representing their constituentsâ views, even if they do not chime with their own 
Sorry, i might be missing the point, but this is around the wrong way. Financial systems were opened up(neolib) and as history warned the obvious happened(Glass/Steagall?). Austerity(neolib) was a bullshit lie and now people are moving away from the lying bullshiters(Centrist/Progressive because they were neoliberalism frauds) to what is not really any kind of extreme(Corbynâs Social Democracy), just a hopefully fairer society.
Being honest, anyone that calls Labour now an extreme is a NEOLIBERAL,or a delusional tory.
Can you define Centrist/Progressive and tell which side of the divide it fits, because i canât?
It all just seems like the American political lie that Blair sold the gullible. One nation, one party(selling the ground under your feet).
Look for the positives. If we go socialist, weâll be an enemy of the unipolar world and will at last understand how Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran and Russia felt/feel.
If some of the nations have done so well with their brand of extreme left policies how come thereâs a huge swathes of them trying to get into racist America?
Yep, honest is always a good thing. But do care about the potential regulation stripping. Thatâs bad all round.
A yes to Mayâs(EU really) plan means basically no change(in perpetuity) except losing out a bit. A no means stripping of all protections(change of government aside), to make American corps richer.
Itâs a fucker, but although i detest the EU commission/ECB, iâd love to see the city get fucked by the rules coming in the day after we leave(Someone planned this surely?).
Might be something to do with the war on their populations. Have you not heard?
We dress it up as âsanctionsâ, but anyone with a brain only needs to look at the true effect.
You donât find it in western msm, unless politically useful, as Yemen(or Nicaragua, Venezuela) proves.
Got as far as this and remembered how full of shit she is(iâll agree the backstop is bollocks).
âIt is conveniently forgotten that those barriers were only there when the IRA was active, bombing and killing our soldiers and police officers.â
Was that because the other side were working hand in hand with our SS?
So theyâre not going to their next door neighbour theyâre walking miles to a nation that doesnât want them?
Sounds like economic migration and a choosing of the best Country for that.
Venezuela is a failed state and an example of extreme leftist ideology.
They werenât/arenât working hand in hand, was there some collusion in the course of history, of course there was.
It would be naive to say there wasnât, it would also be naive to say it doesnât benefit all parties of the same side in many ways.
Dirty wars are exactly that.
What do you expect, the Queensbury rules in urban warfare?
Really? What are Venezuelas problems and why? Remember to include the crippling sanctions and cia funded murderers. Or how about Nicaragua?
Well Iâd start to say heavily subsidizing a nation from oil is a start.
Is there democracy there?
It was wealthy and now it isnât sanctions arenât really a part of that over the previous 50 years.
Nice try though.
Hand in hand and fully paid up, as iâm sure you know.
Back on topic. What about the backstop. Bet that made you happy? Certainly made me laugh.
It was predictable and no one knows where this will head, May has lost 10 mpâs for sure, the backstop is a joke and carves up the UK, she is selling out.
You applying for a foreign policy job at the guardian?
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