Anyway, more washing up to do and Tje Last Jedi is on Sky and I ain’t seen it yet… makes me think of some the EU laws folks might miss… the lack of roaming charges when in the EU… etc. Little things that make life a bit easier… anyway best get on with Chores
I don’t know where the additional social decay comes from. We had already had six years of swingeing cuts, and Brexit or no Brexit, the likes of Northamptonshire and East Sussex, Conservative councils that normally get looked after, would have declared bankruptcy.
The reason I mention Farage, Johnson et al is because all too often, they have been lobbed over the parapet as if they’re relevant. On this, you’re actually not a big offender, but we’ve all too often have others try to claim equivalence in some sort of playground McCarthyism that suggests all Brexiteers are the same as them.
I see a socialist way out of this, sir. I think we could have something transformative, something that others would want to emulate. Vicinity has le[t us far more integrated by accident than the EU would ever manage by design. When eighty percent of the population lives on six percent of the landmass, and I count myself among them, that is going to happen.
I don’t think we’re suddenly going to become a nation of racists because every social attitude survey has shown what I’ve always believed. That we’re sorting this shit out.
Did you know that around 80% of 1980s white British parents would have had a problem if their kids had elected to choose a black partner? In 2015, it was 13%.
I want to give two answers to your question, both dependent on what “us” means.
If “us” means the UK, then I’d have to start with food prices, which affect everybody, which the EU effectively controls with tariff barriers for cheaper suppliers. Then I’d look at our trade with the EU overall, in deficit pretty much every since we joined, and a factor in the decline of domestic demand, and by implication, jobs and industry.
I would most certainly mention the power that was taken from our hands and given to the EU’s unelected structures. Farming, fishing, capital controls, immigration and soon, armed forces.
If “us” means EU citizens at large, then I think you’re on even shakier ground. For me and many on the left, Greece was the deal-breaker. It wasn’t just a case of “it could happen to us”. It was more of a case of “it’s happening to them, right now”.
I’m not trying to “win” here. I’m just delineating my opinion. I have been disappointed that these are not deal-breakers for other people, especially because the argument is “well, it’s not happening to us”.
The counterargument to that is that the EU has all the legal power to do most of that to us, tomorrow, if it wants to. I say “most” because we’re not in the Euro. It totally fucked Greece, and I’ve read Varoufakis’ Adults in The Room. By his account, Greece presented a number of workable plans, all rejected.
Lisbon cemented the EU in the state it is now, a treaty that conferred so much power that nowt else matters now. For a “country” not ten years old, it has had an inauspicious start in terms of looking after its citizens, overall.
You are clearly an Anti-Semite M-O T, you can’t fool us, posting a picture of a circumcised knob in a blatant attempt to conflate members of the Jewish faith with the ‘Taking back control’ swivel eyed Brexiters. You are worse than Hitler!
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Its metaphor innit guv… for Brexit I mean… cutting off you 'skin in a vain attempt to prevent that which your ideology says is all wrong…
Tell me more!
I dont care what anyone says… or how infantile it might be, that potato is very funny
Your potato, (agreed very funny), as these things always are to our infantile side, which, let’s be honest, we all have, reminds me of the famous James Hunt story, verified as true by people who witnessed it. Back in the day when James Hunt was World Champ, a British sporting superstar, along with his mates he found himself sat next to Esther Rantzen in first class on a flight to the US. After the third bottle of champagne he flopped it out and asked her what vegetable it reminded her of. TV viewers of a certain vintage will know what he was getting at. Sadly, Esther was not amused, and i recall Mr Hunt was forced into an apology after readers of The Sun expressed outrage.
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Well given my new name… perhaps this old pepper is a good complement?
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So whatever the ramifications of Brexit, Border Controls will have to change.
There have been reports recently how the immigration service is failing in its duty and against simple targets at Heathrow.
And they cannot even stop the flow of cheap knock-off shit out of the country.
Interpreting that it’s actually not a problem.
the crooks can import fake food and most of you will starve to death at the airport anyway.
Oh wait, you won’t be able to fly.
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Nicked from the Edinburgh Fringe
“Why are they calling it Brexit and not The Great British Break Off?” - Alex Edelman
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Not directly Brexit related, but if this actually happens we’ll all be fine…eventually.
Old news…I am even anallogally unemployable…an proud of it. 
Think we’ve got an automation thread somewhere.
Had a beer with a Labour activist mate last week and he walked me through some dystopian consequences of automation. Will share when I get a mo.
It’s only dystopian if people are still expected to work.
Yeah, you sound like you’re on the same page as my mate. Will expland when I have time.
Mega City One?
Judges? 
That’s it. I’d dredd to live in a place like that.
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Ham nite?
I know i’m a humourless cunt, but that just isn’t funny. Not in a “i’m objecting/offended” way, just in a not funny way.
Hopefully the rest of the Fringe is of better quality. 