:brexit: Brexit - The Ramifications

yes it’s interesting isn’t it. listen and beleive, I guess.

just like the 57% increase in hate crimes.

maybe the BBC will put her interview up on iplayer and everyone can listen to it themselves. He was certainly not defendable, mind. Preoccupied with people’s skin colour.

are you defending his use of the word paki because you say he wasn’t aiming it at her?

Originally posted by @Fatso

are you defending his use of the word paki because you say he wasn’t aiming it at her?

Originally posted by @Sotonist

just so everyone knows the context of the guy saying “paki” to sima Kotecha, and without condoning it , i’ve just heard her piece on R4.

Is this fucking NeoGAF?

Agree with the fact that immigration was a significant factor in the decision of a big proportion of Leavers. However, I I have mentioned on the other thread, I think there are a number of reason why immigration matters to people. Some it is race, some are traditionalist and do not like “the British way of life” being eroded (whatever the fuck that means), some have real concerns about jobs, housing and wages, and others take a practical view on successive years of net migration and our ability to provide services and resources for everyone.

I disagree with the bit in bold as I think one is born from prejudice and the other is from pragmatism and not because “we don’t like foreigners”

Spring 2017

Boris Johnson has been made Prime Minister, with Gove acting as Home Secretary and Hunt as Chancellor. An Autumn election swept the Tories to power with a massive mandate whilst Labour are in turmoil. The Scots and Sinn Fein are pressing for independence referenda.

As some on here have pointed out, Farage doesn’t actually have any formal authority, so he is enobled and given a seat in the House of Lords. Johnson then coopts him onto the cabinet as Minister without Portfolio.

And then I woke up and it was all a terrible dream…

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The interviewee in Basingstoke sounded like he was more worried about skin colour than tradition or values. I didn’t record it though, so I can’t refresh my memory.

For my political leanings I suppose the one good thing to come out of all this is that more people are joining the LibDems who are making a join the EU an election issue!

I think it’s more that it is some sort of colloquialism for the local area, and that Asians of that persuasion are called it not because they are being racist (although the word quite obviously has racist connotations) but because they’re ignorant morons that don’t know what other word to use.

nope, don’t buy that. In this country in 2016 everyone knows how to describe Pakistanis or Asians without using the word Paki. It’s an offensive word, had been for years and people choose to use it in order to be offensive.

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You’ve clearly never spent any time in The Potteries!

That made the blood drain from my face.

That’s where it becomes difficult because no matter whether it’s simple ignorance or not, to use an expression like that is racist, casual or otherwise. The frequent and public use of these terms begins to legitimise them as ‘harmless’ which they are not.

As well being racist, it’s doubly ignorant as most of the Asian population in the UK have ancestry from Bangladesh.

I can’t believe that people are saying that some sectors of society use the word paki unaware that it’s offensive and because they don’t know any other words to describe an Asian person.

I saying they use it because they don’t give a fuck.

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I won’t dispute it’s ignorance, but can you have any reasonable expectation that anyone knows about Bangladesh?

right, that’s the point I was making.

Formerly East Pakistan, gained independence in 1971 from the Islamabad government. The idea was to have the Muslim parts of the former Raj operate as one unit after partition, even though 150 million Muslims still live in India itself.

Given Britain’s prior involvement in the area, this is our history as well as theirs.

Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @Sotonist

Originally posted by @areloa-grandee

That’s where it becomes difficult because no matter whether it’s simple ignorance or not, to use an expression like that is racist, casual or otherwise. The frequent and public use of these terms begins to legitimise them as ‘harmless’ which they are not.

As well being racist, it’s doubly ignorant as most of the Asian population in the UK have ancestry from Bangladesh.

I won’t dispute it’s ignorance, but can you have any reasonable expectation that anyone knows about Bangladesh?

Formerly East Pakistan, gained independence in 1971 from the Islamabad government. The idea was to have the Muslim parts of the former Raj operate as one unit after partition, even though 150 million Muslims still live in India itself.

Given Britain’s prior involvement in the area, this is our history as well as theirs.

Good for you. I don’t see how that changes that it formed no part of my school curriculum and I therefore have no expectation of anybody to know about it.

Originally posted by @Sotonist

Good for you. I don’t see how that changes that it formed no part of my school curriculum and I therefore have no expectation of anybody to know about it.

Think of what you’re saying, boiled down.

“I can’t imagine other people knowing about stuff I don’t know about”

Trips to the doctor must be a laugh.

“Fuck off Doc. There’s no such thing as a spleen!”

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No, what I’m saying is that the fact a doctor knows anatomy does not lead me to expect the general population to know it.