:Brexit: Brexit - The Aftermath

There’ll be no forum murders today.

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Burried, owned? Who give a fuck

Haha you really have that low self esteem? Probably gives you a fucking boner believing you have ‘buried’ someone on a web page😂

Your problem is you think you much smarter than you really are, have an obvious ego issue (probably Nepoleonic in origin), and resort to piss poor trolling the moment you can’t answer a few counter arguments

Get yourself some fucking help

I can imagine that conversation.

Doctor, I’ve got this recurring irritation in an embarrassing place.

Don’t be shy son, whip it out.

I pull out the smartphone and show him the “smashed Map” archive on Sotonians.

Better luck next time @BTripz

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I intend to only do the diaries on this thread. It might be a good idea for Map to do his own and let each stand on their own merits.

You know what is really funny, is that I laugh at myself all the time, It’s no issue. But you are bit deluded if you think no one is laughing at your ridiculous posts and your deep seated need to gain some sort of approval… The odds of having your fragile ego massaged daily have increased gradually as anyone who ‘falls out’ just fucks off… I am sure you see this a little victory… maybe whack one out over it every time another poster simply has enough… knock yourself out.

Seriously mate, about 70% of this forum has met me in real life.

Ask them if they met a bloke unable to laugh at himself.

Ask yourself in you’re in the best place to do character assessments Also ask yourself if you look more foolish each time you say something that is based on your feverish and remote worst case assessments.

Seriously, 70% of a handful is not really something to boast about… more have left than remain… But I am sure you’re a very funny man.

Throughout this debate/argument, your approach has been at least consistent… when you cant answer, you go personal, then plead your innocence a to your forum acolytes the moment anyone responds in kind. You ‘joke’ about folk’s education, their relationships, their nationality, or bring up historic revelations out of context. Anything to avoid giving a straight answer to a question or POV… and you wonder why this causes frustration and eventually folks have enough? Most recently, you told me to ‘do some fucking research son’ - to which I showed you exactly that, yet you just buggered off to avoid having to apologise…

Do I look foolish every time I mention a worst case assessment? Well if I do or dont, I really dont care, its a POV and that’s it. If folks are entertained by it, laugh at me or find me foolish, how does that effect me? not at all.

The fact you dont offer any insight as to why such things wont happen is for others to judge, but you seem to have become like Boris et al, you have convinced yourself so it must be true.

What you fail to recognise is that I and probably 99% of remainers who have deep concerns about the longer term implications of Brexit, are desperate to be proven ‘foolish’ We dont want any of the ‘fear’ to come true, and we desire all the things promised, all the ‘new opportunities’ all the rejuvenation of our industry and services, the reduction in poverty and a more egalitarian society - all the things that were were told were held back by the Shackles of the EU… I just dont believe it will happen and deep down, I suspect nor do you.

The difference between you and me is that you were prepared to pay the price of what we lose for your anti-EU principles - whereas I was not.

As mentioned above, you may think that all what we will lose is not worth bothering about as its just those travelling and middle classes who will be upset by the ‘ittle inconveniences’… but who are you to say what folks should and should not find important to them … even more so when we talk about aspiration of those stuck in the poverty cycle - some opportunities have now been closed, and how many more will be if we see the predicted cuts in University places as their funding dries up, or their fees become simply too much for those not supported by their family money?

I really do hope that the worst we endure going forward is a queue at passport control, but we have already seen this country become more comfortable with the views of Cummings than of Jeremy and if that does not concern you, then it should.

Whatever, it is incredibly naive if you believe that for many, Brexit was about sovereignty, and not about immigration, no matter how uncomfortable that may make you feel.

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You’ve missed the point.

If I ever have a disagreement with any of those people, they’re disagreeing with me and what I think, not having a scrap with a phantom of their own creation.

That’s why by and large, people who have met up are a bit more chilled than people who have and tend not to fall out.

Decide what it is you’d like to do here Map. If the extent of your involvement is picking a fight with me everyday, fair dos, but I think the forum would be a better place if you just PM’ed the abuse.

I’ll even sort you out with my phone number if you want. You can scream abuse down the telephone. It’s a good throwback option.

This is a good offer. I expect you to refuse it because in consideration of your previous forum lives, you’ve shown a history of unrequited obsession with one person. But I hope you don’t.

The Aftermath Diaries - Day two - update one

I have just realised something terrible, another jagged little outcrop of our terrifying plunge over the cliff edge of Brexit.

BOOZE CRUISES ARE BACK

You can buy duty free on a ferry

This will be of no interest to Sotonians though, famously straight edge as we are.

In solidarity with our European brothers and sisters, I trust no-one will be taking on this offer.

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I’m all in favour of this.
Stop Brits getting off the boats.
Less drunken lots giving it large around the resorts of Europe

:innocent:

I think that post sums up all your mis(pre?)conceptions. I came over here by your invitation, so why you bang on about my spat with Turkish and his trolling Says more about you digging up historic muck to score cheap points than it does about my admitted inability to handle his particular strain of vicious trolling

As to a ‘phantom’ you have played that card to many times. You are the only one who I have fallen out with… so when it comes to what I want to do here, you seem the only one determined to make it shitty… so what are you doing? Trying out a new role as a Turkish wannabe?

If there is any obsession in this ‘relationship’ it’s on your side. I can’t post on any thread without a pap response’ like a cheap stalker…

As I said, I dont seem to have an issue with others even when we violently disagree.

And once again, after being at least as equal to blame for the decline (at least grow some fucking balls and admit you have been at least equal in the abuse throwing) you go all peace pipe so that you can appear magnanimous… some will buy it, some wont.

I think it’s mostly this one, or ones like it, that we interact with other. I don’t recognise your summary of events.

I am relaxed about membership. If was genuinely a concern, I’d be out there memeing on social media drawing attention to the place, just as I did back in the early days.

The Sotonians account is virtually dormant. The Facebook page doesn’t even ref;ect the fact we’ve moved to Discourse. It’s actually downright misleading. We don’t have the features advertised any more.

If you’d like me to get more members, say so, but if I do embark on a new campaign, please have the decency not to act like a raging nutjob that hates the founder.

Maybe that you dont recognise the summary is part of the problem?

Well notwithstanding a couple of mental health episodes I ain’t no ‘nutjob’ who ‘hates the founder’. I just find your self-righteous ‘black or white’ postings and the way you frequently Simply ignore good arguments that counter your claims and use whatever distraction techniques you can annoying and ridiculous…

You are quick to jump to conclusions like the other day, and then don’t even offer the courtesy of an apology…

Can’t comment on membership as not my site, but quite a few posters gone after fallings out with you…

This really isn’t the time and place for any of this. The only reason you’re bringing departed posters up in a Brexit argument, of all places, is that you’ve nothing else left.

It has zero relevance to Brexit, and everything to do with your rather strange obsession. I’m all ove this site spinning various plates. Brexit has definitely been an obsession of mine. You have not.

As far as the raging nutjob thing goes, I’m only referring to your content and fuck all in the background. Read it back dispassionately.

Do you sound like a man arguing against Brexit or do you look like a person that is obsessed with. or at least obsessing with being perceived to have the upper hand on another person to the point where you’re relentlessly personal about the bloke, the site he started or his Brexit diary?

I have been living on a duty free Island for the best part of a year so I would be partaking of any excuse not to give governments money to waste.

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The thing is, that’s tangible to your average person. Duty Free on a trip where you couldn’t get it before? Average voter thinks bonus.

Seriously? You think this is about you? Is your ego really that big?

I go on about Brexit because I am seriously fucked off with those that sold it to the public with lies and innuendo, and managed to do so against a background of 10 years of austerity blaming foreigners and the EU for their misery

I get fucked off with you because despite this being obvious, you insist it’s all about the public desire for sovereignty… when in reality Immigration played a huge role… for some a genuine question, for others for more sinister reasons. Yet for you it’s like that does not exist or that it made no difference to the outcome…

If it appears that this is focussed against you, it’s because you are the only one here who defends that position

As to ‘having the upper hand’ … again way off base, but I do object to be accused of not doing any ‘fucking’ research and then you not even having the courtesy to acknowledge you were wrong… seems like it’s you who want the upper hand…

Nope. I just count the references to my handle in your posts.

Count them yourself. How many of them today?

Oh dear, maybe you need to think a little bit more in why this might be… considering we are the two who have debated/argued about this… maybe check how many responses you have made to my posts… it should be no surprize that I post more on the more serious topics… so as a percentage it’s high, compared to your high posting total, but I suspect your contributions to the topic are way more than mine…

Scraping the barrel a bit with that one…