:Brexit: Brexit - The Aftermath

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point is… why should they be forced into selling up, because the rules where changed after they had committed to that way of life? You seem to have forgotten your socialist principles Pap (not for the first time), in that your sneering at anyone who has the audacity to not to be the poorest, loses any right to their on life choices?

You have repeatedly stated that for the rich, the loss of freedom of movement is no big deal… and you are right (as that article also acknowledges), its those who are not rich who are given a shitty hand as always…

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So what it is, is that I’ve got a lot less sympathy for those in straits through some fault of their own, assets and cash, than I do for the 750K people here that have just lost their jobs through no fault of their own.

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But that is an effect of Democracy not Brexit.
Any new UK or Spanish Government could have changed their laws.
E.g. UK looked many times at taxing ex Pat’s. They didnt BUT to say it was not the fault of the Benidorm crew so they should be exempt is bonkers.
They HAD options. They could have become full blown residents. They chose not to.
Oh but Medical Bill’s you cry. Well I get State Cover here, it wasnt rocket science, it was some form filling.

I have no sympathy.

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Fair enough

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Sneering middle classes at the caravan expat lot, strange bed fellows if ever there was one.

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Sorry, this still isn’t making any sense :roll_eyes:

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The liberal elite laughed and scorned at the expat Spanish population, now they’re using them to strengthen their argument, from their sun terrace they watched the masses have sol at 5 for $10 and laughed, as I say strange bedfellows.

My guess also is this’ll get sorted between the two nations quite quickly as there’s too much money involved.

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A family opposite from us went promptly in October to Majorca to live, it focused minds I suppose.

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It’s understandable. Potential deportation and ruination vs the certainty of living opposite you. Minds were focused indeed!

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Ooh, you bitch :smile::smile:

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Now if you had said that clearly in the first place…

We’re not all tuned in to Radio Baz :wink:

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Speak for yourself :grin:

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They’re a few doors down but near enough but I agree, I’ll add they were English, the lady lost her business her due to covid and her husband can work from home, their house is on the market, no takers, needs some work done on the inside, townhouse, its good value as well I’d say.

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I might be interested, what are the neighbours like?

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So this amount of “income” they need to stay in their Spanish villas for more than however many out of 180 days, is it covered by a UK state pension?

And, how did people do it before the EU?

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I don’t think a standard state pension covers it, although if that’s all you have then I doubt you are a second home owner

And prior to the EU it was less prevalent - doable, but I suspect more income was needed

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It’s also possible that back then people didn’t necessarily believe that they were automatically entitled to own more than one home. Fortunately we live in more enlightened times.

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Probably why timeshares were such a big thing a while ago…

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So, if you can stay for 90 days out of a 180 day period, surely you can “bend” the rules and do 180 days continually, the first 90 being from the pervious 180 days and the next 90 being from the next 180 days, sorted, half the time in France/Sapin the other half in the UK

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Now because you would have done 180 days in - 180 day period