:brexit: Brexit - Deal or no deal

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As if no-one knew.

Varadkar was fucking mental.

Last minuters again.

Pardon my French, but quelle surprise. Cunts.

Deal. I have answered this

I am truly shocked tbh.
Now the in fighting can begin

The remainers will still fucking moan about the colour of the napkins, we have a deal, we’re leaving and Merry Christmas, Johnson is a cunt mind.

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I may be misreading what this Xmas pressie of a car-crash deal means, but it seems to be mainly about trading goods rather than services. Aren’t services significantly more important to the UK economy than trading in goods?

And fuck Johnson for not carrying on with the Erasmus scheme. The replacement “Turing” scheme I’m sure will be an enigma…

I’ll get me coat.

I was trying to pore over the details to see what the movement was. Fishing. Fucking fishing. Important to Macron for his next set of elections, but a minority consideration for the land-locked and coastal countries too far away to bother.

We’re going to have a phased transition of quotas, something that was always a sensible idea given we’re not going to magic up a fishing fleet overnight.

There is not much that Boris has done right during his tenure. Greenlighting this negotiating team was one of them. Being prepared to walk away with no deal was another. That, alongside a diminished role for the civil servants that clogged up May’s attempts, is the reason we have a deal.

Before we give him too much credit, let’s remember that it was always a fucking nonsense idea to accept any old shite the EU threw over the wall. It’s the position that Theresa May started with. She only abandoned it after she lost her majority.

We still enjoy zero tariff access to the EU. There’s no oversight from the ECJ, no lingering control from the European Union will have.

So long, and thanks to your self-harming interest in fish. Great deal.

Fine, that’ll please most Daily Fail readers but what’s your take on the impact on services - most especially on financial services?

Why the fuck is Farage still being wheeled out all over the media. Ridiculous figure.
“I would vote for this deal if i were an MP”. He’s tried to get elected as an MP seven times, and failed miserably on each occasion.
I would shag Scarlett Johansson if i was her husband. I have about as much chance of doing that as Farage has of ever being elected an MP.

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In summary:-

  • We still have 0% tariffs on importing and exporting goods to the EU.
  • We can forge our own trade deals with any other country for stuff that we don’t fancy buying from the EU.
  • Because we’ve got a 0% agreement on goods with the EU, we’re likely to get those kind of deals elsewhere, with more countries lining up to import and export at 0%.
  • That is before you count all the 0% deals we’ve already done.

Can you point to many countries in the world that will have as strong a trade position as the UK, with so few strings attached?

Nice couple of %age points to be made by traders in volume or high value goods from outside the EU free tariff zones

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Honestly Phil, I’m astounded with this.

There were many people, and I was one of them, that thought the EU’s inflexibility was the catalyst for an inevitable no-deal.

You also had pundits on all sides saying that the EU could not let Britain leave with a good deal, and that we would be punished.

How are we being punished? A bit more paperwork, which we have to do for the rest of the world anyway?

II think the reason we’ve got this deal is Macron. As I said earlier, fishing is a symbolic but minority concern. He made this the thing.

It was a thing we were never that arsed about negotiating. Who knew?

Services, financial services. You are still talking trading goods, which value wise to the economy is small. Have you been involved in setting up your company to continue trading financial services in the EU?

No? I thought not.

Tricky one.
Existing law requires Finance or Banking licences now in each country.
Can still operate but costs go up hence Banks closing ex pat accounts. They can make individual Nation investments if they want

The big stuff has always been here. When German-led multinationals seek to finance new initiatives, they’ll often still go through London.

Besides that, we really need to look at the financial services industry and work out how much of it we need. Yes, yes, I know how much of a percentage it plays in our income, which is precisely why the economy needs diversifying.

Just as an example, and not one that much will happen about. Insurance. Big plank of financial services industry. Big target for the ambulance chasing wing of the legal industry. At the same time, you’ve got price comparison sites directing you to competing offers, solicitors acting on behalf of the insurers.

No doubt - every little bit of that adds to GDP, but every little bit of that, ultimately, is coming from the pocket of someone who is going out to work, and the only reason it works is because the vast majority of time insurance is free money.

That’s what financial services is. Free money, to those who already have money free. I think a lot of it needs reform.

I would be much happier if councils were able to provide a universal basic insurance scheme. They could do a lot more good with the free money than the private insurance firms do.

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Just seen a Boris video - maybe from yesterday - announcing the deal. Not surprising that he seemed very happy, but on very close inspection he was wearing a tie with hundreds of tiny fish on it. :rofl:

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That’s what tipped the scales. :+1:

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oh for fucks hake :lou_facepalm_2:

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