:brexit: Brexit - Deal or no deal

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I think that after helping the Tories to a majority through their own stupidity, Remainers can never credibly play that card again.

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More Jeff Taylor. Running order:-

  • Smug rant
  • Quotes.
  • Wild rant

I’m obsessed. There’s something wrong with me.

The potential job losses were made clear apparently

Don’t fret Fatso, this wil be the easiest deal in the history of easy deals as Gove, Blojob, and Piss-mog told the gullible.

Keep the quips coming smart boys. Another Tory majority is yours to enable.

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It won’t work in quite the same way come the next election, because Brexit will have happened by then. Labour can’t be scuppered again by remainers trying to stop the process. However, I can see a situation where the tories are the only mainstream party actually behind the “out of the EU” position, and them hoovering up votes as a result of Labour under Starmer positioning themselves as opposing that, possibly advocating a return to closer political ties, extolling the virtues of the ECJ etc, or a return to freedom of movement. And then we’ll discover yet again that the majority who voted out in the referendum (and then again in the European elections) actually did so because they wanted us out, and still do.

It cetainly appears if all the same mistakes are being made. Given Keir’s preference for Remain, and the fact he has stacked his shadow cabinet are all Remainers, I can easily see some of them agitating for a rejoin position.

If they do, it’ll be the same sneerig wankers inside Parliament and out that will hand the Tories another majority.

Interesting piece here…

So four years after the vote, it seems that the penny has finally dropped for our EU brothers and sisters that Brexit means the ECJ won’t have any role in British lawmaking.

Bit fucking slow on the uptake, these dweebs. You’d have to have lost control of your fucking mind to think otherwise.

That said, Sotonians is definitely the place for such mindlessness. In the real world, you’d get mocked in the pub. Here, people just get to shout about the landlord.

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I’m posting Jeff Taylor again, god help me.

You can take Jeff’s rants with a fistful of salt. You can admire, as I do, that privet hedge moustache and idly wonder how Jeff would get by without it (spoiler warning, he would be @saintbletch :smiley: ).

You can’t ignore the majority of his videos, which is Jeff boringly reading quotes.

In this case, it’s about the EU budget. It is one of the few things that requires a unanimous vote from all 27 member states. It isn’t getting it.

You are right of course, 27 member states will never agree on anything significant…

Still beating that drum hey pap… you sound more ‘anti-democratic’ every time that bollox leaves your lips…

Two replies in quick succession!

Who’s beating the drum, exactly? :smiley:

Someone has woken up riled. One would have thought the unanimous agreement would have cheered you up.

One would have thought you might have responded with an opinion, not a dismissive ‘quip’ …

Simply saw the news and felt it’s was amusing that within 24 hours of you suggesting they can never agree, they agree… goes to show we can’t all be right all the time…

As for the ‘big chip’ on your shoulder that ‘it woz them remoaners that lost Corbyn his house at number 10… init’ you still do have a long way to go to try and explain how part of an electorate voting for what it believed in is all right and proper if they voted for parties fully behind Brexit, but not For the popular majority That voted for parties who were advocating further debate? Because there is none…

… you might as well tell the SNP they should have packed it in after the Indy Ref, and the Scots to stop voting for them… after all they lost, it’s over for this generation… init…

What you seem to forget about democracy is that it’s does not need a minimum passage of time before folks can disagree with a ‘majority’ POV. The very essence of democracy is they can continue to vote As they wish, even against a ‘majority’ POV the day after if they believe it to be wrong… precisely why we see the distribution of the vote change with each election… I would have thought you would get such fundamentals…

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Look, if you want to make strawmen to play with, go for it, but you’re only making yourself look a nob.

I said “It isn’t getting it”.

That does not mean “it is never getting it”, as much as you might have imagined it to.

You know fuck all about democracy, and neither do your heroes the SNP. They are fucking liars on the exact point you’re making.

They signed up to once in a generation. They’re now, in the face of all available evidence to the contrary, saying they didn’t.

They’re a bit like you with the EU result. Crazed fantasists that won’t accept reality.

If I took your position, I’d be sat here pretending that the EU budget agreement didn’t happen, again, in the face of all competing evidence.

You’ve had your little talk, son. Now fuck off and bask in the warm glow of your kicked arse.

Oh dear.
So LGBT rights were pretty much trampled during the election here, as were abortion rights.
Not to mention the rows about the Judiciary.
Yet by signing up Poland now have to roll back anti LGBT rhetoric & restrictions and after saying how horrific it would be for a Gay couple to adopt.
Now for the budget they have to comply with EU rules on those rights
:lou_facepalm_2:

Pot/kette etc…

  1. My definition, is certainly clearer than yours… you are simply qualifying your opinion by suggesting a time limit to allow the ref to be implemented… no one has ‘stopped’ the vote being implemented, certainly not those that voted remain (we have no power to do so, whatever our opinion on the matter) , only some politicians attempted to stall/delay implementation which is again their right if they do not believe its in the country’e best interests to head rapidly towards a no deal … especially as the no deal was not presented as an option to the public in the referendum… it seem you are clutching at your own straw(s) man, by suggesting that those advocating a more thoughtful and analytical approach to any deal (given that this would take longer) were pissing on the democratic vote… which is nonsense and you know it… it simply does not fit with your frustration that Corbyn’s Labour was split, like the Tories of old… you can’t take this frustration out on those of the electorate who is pro-remain as that would be undemocratic…

  2. SNP are far from my heroes, I voted NO in the ref for a number of reasons… but I will defend their position, because 1) Independence is their reason for existing , they are fully transparent about that … and they accepted the result at the time. BUT when the situation changed with 65% of Scots voting remain, even you must surely accept that presents a strong argument for revisiting the question, given that many would potentially reconsider their POV under this dramatically changed environment… and why are you so scared of giving the Scots the option? Or are you just pissed off with them for no longer guaranteeing 45+ Labour seats to Westminster?? i aspect that plays a bigger role in your dislike for the SNP than you will ever admit… so much for your democratic principles…

Jeez… what reality cant I accept? we have left/leaving, most likely with a shit or no deal, that IS sadly the reality… that does not mean i have to like it, or present an opposing argument, (which is a democratic right by the way)… you shouting me down, or calling me crazed or your other cliched shite like ‘remoaners’… fuck me you are funny, does not erode my right to my opinions…

This one is classic Pap, the attempted patronising shite you reel out when you are clearly stumped to provide any logic, or rational cohesive argument… the kind of comment that makes you look like a fucking massive twat… well done sir (Naturally you will as usual pretend to be the injured party and that I started the insults and how you can really have a go if we move to beef… pretending your insults never happened)… you are as transparent as glass

For the sake of what must be very tired eyes, I’ll keep it short and simple.

The SNP signed up to a once in a generation referendum. They waited two years. They’re an opportunist shower of cunts that I hope gets a more difficult time in next year’s Holyrood elections.

You sign up to something; you fucking stick to it. It’s a lesson you and the SNP could both take.

Whilst it’s good it may not be all that rosy, lots of compromises

Loved this bit, it’s all the pig fucker’s fault

As for Europe’s most powerful leader, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, I asked her about the new power balance in the EU. She said: “During the last negotiations [then UK Prime Minister] David Cameron’s view loomed large. Now he is no longer with us, others have come to the fore.”