It’s a clusterfuck of cunts that should be sharing the blame I agree. 115000 dead is testament to their utter, cataclysmic failure. But the buck has to stop somewhere and Johnson is in the shit seat.
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I agree…CEO takes the shit…he’s steering the ship.
So it’s not actually his fault personally, then?
But it’s not on the basis that he was elected Tory leader a year and a half ago is it. It’s on the basis that he is Prime Minister, in charge, making the decisions. Decisions he has made during this crisis, (or rather not made), have directly led to the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people. On him, he is accountable, no-one else, so yes, blood on his hands. Constantly ignoring the scientist’s because he wants to be loved, delaying lockdown - twice. Lifting lockdown too early - twice, opening up pubs, eat out to help(the virus) out, the debacle of sending students back to universities, boasting about shaking hands with corona virus patients, giving his advisor a spot on prime time TV, from the Downing St rose garden no less, to spin his bullshit and lies when he got caught out flaunting his own lockdown rules. The constant bare faced lying when painted into a corner on things like the disastrous test and trace system which was unfit for purpose even after throwing 20 odd billion quid at ‘friends’ to run it. Not even bothering to attend five SAGE meetings because he was too busy sorting out his divorce and his latest squeeze’s baby shower. The examples of his incompetence and dangerous decision making go on and on. The only thing he;'s got right is letting the NHS run the vaccine rollout, which of course he is claiming all the credit for even though he’s got nothing to do with it. And wants to shout about it from the rooftops at every opportunity, just don’t mention the 120,000 deaths. And still they learn nothing, as the unfolding hotel quarantine fiasco shows. For six weeks people have been flying in from countries with the new variants, no checks, hop on the train and disappear to all parts of the UK. Many directly from South Africa via Dubai. It’s a nonsense.
I do wonder what Johnson’s apologists would be saying if, in a parallel universe all this was happening under a Labour administration, led by say, Jeremy Corbyn. Just imagine if he had presided over this absolute catalogue of errors, his negligence being directly responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. Bunging billions to trade union Labour Party donor barons to fuck up the vital Test Track and Trace, handing out highly paid roles to unqualified family friends and school mates. Setting up a ‘fast track’ in the whips office for Labour MPs to put their friend’s names forward for million pound contracts. There would be uproar, he would have been overthrown by the forces of the state months ago. That is a given.
Yet Johnson just carries on, gaslighting the nation, with a tame media, most of them nothing less than courtiers, letting him get away with it, not holding him to account.With a Labour opposition sadly becoming more irrelevant by the day. Democracy in this country is in a very bad place.
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Well he does come across as a bumbling incompetent, but I don’t know him personally.
Perhaps he’s a political whiz kid and has everything in hand, making sure nobody is profiteering and has kept the death toll down from +1 million? It doesn’t look like it, but what are the chances that he has?
As been said. He’s the “leader” he carries the can.
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As in ultimately responsible and should resign? Yes. I’m sure the Eton mess is doing his best but he’s not up to the job.
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That I can agree with. I’ve said before that I was appalled that he could ever have been in the position he’s in, and I stand by that opinion.
It begs the question “how in the fuck did that ever happen?” and that imho is worth looking at before condemning the man personally in the terms that have been used. He’s not up to the job, and should never have been in it. So why is he there?
Because he played the politics an made sure that he was in the right place at the right time to take over when May bottled it over not getting Brexit done.
When he was Lord Mayor he was known for getting the right people in to do his job for him, he has done the same here without the success. He made the mistake of listening to Cummings and given the odious hispid far too much power.
Anyway this probably belongs in the Johnson thread so don’t be upset if I move it there later…
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He’s the fall guy - The party picked someone with a massive ego and sense of Etonian entitlement. They sold him the sizzle, while sniggering behind their backs and thanking their deity of choice that they personally swerved the car crash.
Oh and he got in to “get Brexit done” take the plaudits for it and then resign with all the kudos…Covid sort of fucked that for him…
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He got in because he was the most prominent Brexiteer to throw his cap in the ring. He is a result of a lot of people try to thwart the outcome of the referendum.
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His biggest weakness is the same weakness they all have. By the time they get there, they are all empty vessels. They all need their SPADs, and it’s those people, that supposedly give them a semblance of reality.
Some top-profile SPADs of the past.
- Alistair Campbell
- Dominic Cummings
- Nick Timothy
- Fiona Hill
- Damian McBride
These people are instrumental, and this is our fucking system. Empty vessels floating to the top, to be advised by “real people” that are about as far away from real people as you can fucking get.
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That’s my conclusion as well.
You mean the opportunist who just took a chance to gain power and influence?
Seems he got his just desserts IMHO
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I would say that most politicians are opportunistic. May was when she grabbed the leadership - a role that she would have never got had it not been for Brexit
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Don’t disagree. It takes a certain type of person to be a politician. Have never met one I’d particularly want to go out of my way to piss on if they were on fire tbh.
I’m not sure what else Labour can do? They have highlighted the errors countless times, put forward their own suggestions and generally done what you would expect for an opposition that has no clout because of Johnson’s majority. Johnson gets away with it because he has a support base like that of Trump. In their eyes he can do no wrong, dear cuddly old Boris. He is doing his best in difficult circumstances and you can just imagine what mess Labour would have made of it all. Boris got Brexit done so he seems to get a free pass in their eyes. Fortunately more and more floating voters seem to realise what an incompetent chancer he is so there is a modicum of hope, if he lasts until the next election that is.
Speaking of which, apparently Starmer has bought Mandleson back into the fold
Of course he’s an opportunist like all narcissists, because that’s what he is. Britain Trump, anointed as such by the great man himself. He and Trump share so many characteristics, the pathological lying, the refusal to accept facts if they don’t suit, even indisputable ones. Like Trump he cares only for what is good for Boris Johnson and his ambitions. Even colleagues admit he is pathologically lazy, given to taking reckless decisions in both his personal and political life. He cares not one jot for the death toll of this virus, i doubt he gives them a thought only in so much as they are an inconvenience to his ambition. I remember the interview with a Chief Exec of a company, who took part, with others on a Zoom call with Johnson to discuss the urgent procurement of ventilators during the first wave. He expressed his shock at Johnson’s contribution, which included the suggestion that it should be called,“Operation Last Gasp”. Oh what a lark! Good old Boris, isn’t he witty. He really doesn’t give a fuck, and people love him for it. Truly shocking IMO.This image he’s created, the hair ruffling, the bumbling, all of it is a crafted image, in reality he really is a nasty bit of work.
His peers, people like Max Hastings and Peter Oborne who are serious people, conservatives who have known him for years, moved in his circles, should be listened to. Oborne has just written a book,The Assault On Truth, in which he tackles the issue of Johnson and his lying, documenting them all.
“I have been a political reporter for almost three decades, I have never encountered a senior British politician who lies and fabricates so regularly, so shamelessly and so systematically as Boris Johnson”
From Max Hastings, who was Johnson’s editor at the Telegraph and has known him for years.
“Johnson would not recognize truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade. It is impossible that a man who is false to his friends and neighbours should be true to the public. Almost the only people who think Johnson a nice guy are those who do not know him”.
The US are fortunate enough to have got rid of their narcissistic sociopath, sadly it looks like we will be lumbered with ours for the forseeable future.
No wonder Eddie Mair hasn’t been invited back to fill in for Andrew Marr!
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I think it will be more like Mandelson has brought himself back into the fold.