Female view! Yes the media sensationalise things, always have and always will. No I have no problem with a man identifying as a woman. Yes I have a problem with that same man expecting to use the female toilets whilst he is still physically a male. I also have a problem with those who went through puberty as a male but then think they should be able to ignore the medically proven advantage that gives and take part in sports against women.
As a female I am often in situations that are not comfy because of wokeness yet my concerns are ignored as I am being inconsiderate.
If a person born as a male wants to identify as a female then why not go the change route and become a woman? Or are we keeping our options open? In which case it is all a load of dangly bits
This is what I am talking about. There is so much wrong with your interpretation I am not sure where to start…
This saga began because of a news item that once again focussed on the ‘sensationalist freak show’
No shit sherlock… My comment was never about pointing this out in a patronizing manner or otherwise which as you say is obvious to everyone
My comment (had you actually bothered to consider it) was a simple observation/comment about the implications of this media focus, in neglecting the real issues of prejudice and inequality, because these ridiculous anomalies can be resolved with rule changes etc.
Its an important difference if you wish to try and score points - because you have simply illustrated you could not be arsed recognising it…
Instead you decided to infer from this comment that I somehow was comfortable with this man beating up women? How you made that leap is clearly remarkable … and I have to say very typical of your style to be provocative and bait…
Next, despite my comment that you and Cobham also chose to ignore (that solutions to avoid women feeling uncomfortable may not be satisfactory for trans folks, but that is unavoidable), you both seem to infer I am ignorant of the ‘woke’ effect on women - on their needs and rights… again how you draw this conclusion from a comment on the implications of the media focus is a stunning (and shameless) piece of bollocks
You finish with an accusation that I have been trying to tell grown adults how the news works… er NO. Like i said above this have fuck all to do with the fact papers focus on this stuff… but with the implications for advancing the discussion to the very issues that ARE important; Finding the right balance that protects womens rights and ensure equality without prejudice.
How the fuck is that a controversial or complicated POV?
You think she’s a freak then? Or you just think everyone else thinks she’s a freak?
I’ve heard this said by other ladies, including my girlfriend and my sister. And before @Goatboy puts his oar in, no, that isn’t one girl. 
Thank you. As I tried to get across several times, these are very important issues that need to resolved and it may mean as you suggest that Trans folks may not get all they feel
is their ‘right’ if we want to rightly protect womens freedoms and rights. / with the caveat that this must be sensitive to misconceptions or prejudices that. an easily cloud judgement
However, my comments were in response to the media focus on the sensationalism meaning this more complex and more important discussion becomes dominated by crap such as ‘Wokism’ and other labels designed to derail adult debate to seek solutions that can where possible accommodate all
Apologies if that suggests in any way I am ‘marginalizing’ women’s opinions or concerns, because I cant see how it does, but would
welcome your thoughts
FFSbehave - go back and see how this comment was originally in context in earlier post…
You’re the only one that’s used the term here. Twice.
Yep, in both cases in the same context. sorry if you cant work out what was being implied, but if you want to believe shit and try and make mileage out of it without actually dealing with the points raised, maybe stick to sick jokes?
To avoid any misinterpretation or concern on your part, ill use your own words in response so there is no ambiguity - Twat
Oh dear, you really do have some issues. One of them is thinking that everyone hangs on to every word you say. Leave out the long worded justifications and people might thing you’re less pompous than you come across. I’m sure you’re not IRL.
whatever, with this attitude, there really is little point in any discussion on here…
This shit happens all the time… point made but ignored, instead made up bollocks used to drag folks through shit
The point you made didn’t address the point being made. It was very specific, based on a current news story.
Instead, you decide to do post after post of Map-splaining to your intellectual inferiors, insisting they’ve missed the points you’ve made.
That is not true. They disagree with them, and no amount of re-heating the same meal is going to make it palatable.
It’s one of your standard tactics, isn’t it. Using a derogatory term, but allocating it’s use to someone else who hasn’t actually used it and using that to denigrate their position. Followed closely by the word “behave”, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and can’t think of anything else to say. And then advising them to stick to another website that you know they use, as if that reflects badly on the point actually under debate. It’s all pretty standard online debating stuff.
If that is the case, be so kind to point out exactly the points I made that you everyone disagree with because you seem to have been disagreeing with things I have never said… as is frequently the case… should at fucking clouds
you through in bombs /assumptions like the intellectual inferior comment all the time to inflame, again more deliberate provacative bullshit.
Thats fucking hilarious coming from the someone keen to share shite and often offensive ‘jokes’
For your obviously confused brain (or as Pap might suggest intellectually inferior one?) It was fucking obvious from the first use that its was accusing the media of creating a ‘freak show’ a modern circus for the masses to point fingers at… as means of distracting from the key issues… but you must have missed than when ignoring the original post and its context… but hey fill ya boots
When I said intellectual inferiors, I was simply putting myself in your shoes. It seems to be your impression of the people you’re interacting with.
They don’t get it. They’ve missed the point. Understanding eludes them. The points aren’t worth discussing here.
Is there anyone here capable of comprehending your beautiful mind?
Clearly not 
You’re all as bad as each other.
I really can’t agree. There are ways to disagree with people and I don’t think everyone takes the same path to resolution.
I can think of nothing worse than speaking to a lot of women all the time. FFS, when do you ever get to chat shite about bloke stuff?