I think it worth mentioning that the first poster to approve of my last post was Tigger. And in my humble opinion, her “likes” count treble. So there. 
4 Likes
Haven’t seen either on here for ages. Wasn’t Coxford Lou ill? 
I thought she buggered off to America?
Scotty, nothing wrong with your post, but again missing the point. Everything that you mention whilst important can be dealt with through appropriate changes in rules, policy etc, to ensure no women is uncomfortable, or getting beaten up or losing Olympic medals. These are practical and in most cases very simple actions that would protect the rights of all.
At the risk of sounding exasperated because folks don’t seem to understand the issue, its really IS very simple.The vast majority of headlines with respect to transgender issues are significantly those of the rare more ‘headline’ grabbing scenarios as described above. This IMHO creates a false perception that a) these are somehow the most important, and worse b) that trans issues are somehow only centred around these ridiculous situations… its therefore not surprising that those who like to use words such as ‘woke’ to mock those who might want defend certain rights (as popular as mocking PC) like to publish this stuff without fair balance.
The trans debate should never be about people feeling ‘uncomfortable’, but about ensuring those situations need not arise, through changing facilities, access and services beyond the traditional binary perspective. If are are trans folks who feel this might go against their rights, then that is sad, but there is no perfect solution.
… Media focus on the extremes that you mention, does nothing to address the elements ‘in between’ you are rightly concerned about, but it does make the ‘public’ less empathetic towards trans folks as they only get to see these ‘freak’ shows.
@Map-Of-Tasmania please can I respectfully ask you to put aside your no doubt honorable opinions and go out and talk with lots of women, not just those in your social / professional sphere, or what you read in social media.
You might just get a bit of a wake up call.
There’s genuine sympathy out there but also a lot of concern, worry and abject horror.
Please report back.
1 Like
Respectfully, I speak with a lot of women the all time…in all social spheres (but please explain why that should make any difference…) but you also seem to have missed the point… Its completely accepted that many women have concerns. As it should be perfectly accepted that all should be done to remove any situations that might bring that about… i have not ever disagree with that so have no idea why some seem to think I have?
BUT that has nothing to do with the issue I am talking about, which is about the MEDIA focus on the extremes… and the perceptions that creates… My concern over media coverage of these extremes, is s separate point. Pap began by ignoring that point and going in with both feet suggesting I did not share his concern about men beating up women… and then the usual suspects jump in again ignoring the fact we are talking about different issues…
SO please dont patronise… because if you dont see this as separate point, then you are in no position to do so.
In answer to the title I have no idea ?
Behave and stop being so passive aggressive 
Forget what blokes want when wanting to identifying as women.
My issue is that talking to my wife, daughter, sister, their friends, my colleagues and pretty much they are all sympathetic with gender dysphoria (or whatever the current definition is) but the overwhelming feedback (from my male perspective) is that biological women’s concerns are being completely and utterly sidelined because people who want to be or identify as women have their “needs” made paramount.
I really don’t know why you don’t get this and why you rail against everyone who makes this argument. I suspect you are so set in your opinions that you refuse to allow any other views.
Please don’t patronise me or the women I have discussed this topic with. If you can’t accept other views than your own then I’d suggest you don’t antagonise people.
…and don’t envy throw the “patronise” tag at me ever again - twat 
1 Like
Jeez, you obviously dont do irony with your passive aggressive bollocks… and I will stop using the patronising tag when you stop being it. FFS read your initial replay again, maybe tomorrow morning…
Nothing I have said or think contradicts this in anyway, so my being pissed off is because you and others have been jumping to the fucking wrong conclusion that it does.
what part of
do you not understand?
Please explain how making a comment about media preoccupation with extremes maybe distracting from the debate on equality and prejudice, is somehow translated as not giving a fuck about women’s concerns?
FFS, how some can go from one to the other suggests no one is actually reading anything…
Inequality and prejudices exist. we need to address that just as much as we need to find solutions to avoid women becoming uncomfortable in any situation (provided these are not simply based on a misconception and prejudices) How is that not a fair and reasonable statement?
Again, this has fuck all to do with accepting other POV. Its only about folks on here misinterpreting one
nice…
envy = ever obvs
Lol
Don’t need to wait until tomorrow to reply
Obviously we all misrepresent you, you’re always right and we’ll bow down to you world view because no one can have anything than @Map-Of-Tasmania right-speak.
I have form for going off on one every now and again and this is one of those times.
Stop being a dick and being holier than thou and we’ll be cool, otherwise I’m happy for you to keep banging on about something other people don’t share a view with you about - and probably aren’t really interested in tbh 
In a fucking nutshell - If I thought i was always right, i would not waste time discussing this stuff, but this argument is NOT about differences of opinion or rights and wrongs but about you putting words in my mouth that are complete fantasy and have fuck all to do with was actually said…
This is too much like hard fucking work… enjoy your evening
Can we close this thread on the fact nobody knows whats its about?
2 Likes
Boom
Finally
This isn’t actually true but please feel free to feel better about yourself if it helps love. You can put whatever you want in your mouth - neither I or my female friends and family will judge you …
A very unexpected and marvellous comedy evening thanks - Fam C_S have been moaning at me for using the mobile and laughing out loud - a lot 
A lot of people seem to missing the point you’re making or don’t understand the issue. You’re asking the same people not to patronise you, even though you’ve spent considerable time explaining something that should be fairly self-evident to anyone that has been on the planet for say, a couple of decades.
(drum roll)
The media reports exceptional news stories.
That’s why the six o’ clock headlines don’t feature an account of Mrs Miggin’s trip to Asda to buy cat food.
Inversely, Alana McLaughlin (along with Fallon Fox) were both exceptional in the sense that they were born men and went on to compete in female MMA. That is why they are news worthy.
I know that may sound patronising, but it’s considerably less patronising than telling grown adult humans that they don’t understand how the news works.
Fair play to her - she sounds very good.