Where all that guff come from about Boris losing his seat - he increased his lead
Grieve, Soubry and Chuka gone
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And Goldsmith
The facts are very simpleā¦ you just chose to interpret in an odd wayā¦ some people in this country have decided to vote for a party who stand for Brexit, and all that shit that comes with itā¦ KNOWING that party is led by an utter cunt ā¦ that is their choice. For these swingers Brexit has for some unfathomable reason become more important than the services and people of this country - and in many cases they are the same people who will be most impacted on by this resultā¦ I hope it makes them happy tonight as the next five years and beyond will be fucking miserableā¦
To try and blame those who do not believe Brexit is the right course ( and if you look at the popular vote numbers, if you assume Labour Brexiteers did not vote labour, then nothing has changed since the referendum - maybe even a slight shift away from Brexit given the combined percentage of Cons, DUP, BRX and UKIPā¦) is ridiculousā¦ I thought you of all people who has been so vocal about your āprinciplesā would appreciate that, but they obviously only count if they are principles you agree with.
Anyway, I should be celebrating, no likely tax increases for me now, (for a while anyway), as I said unlikely to be too inconvenienced by Brexit or Tories personally, unless I get seriously ill, then again this was never about my own situationā¦
Unfortunately, for all your bluster about upholding democracy, we will now see Boris dismantle many of he parliamentary safeguards, but then again, you will simply continue to blame those who had different principles ā¦ easiest option when you donāt want to admit you contribution to thisā¦
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FFS, now weāre not going to be able to move in this country with all these extra nurses, policemen and teachers on the roads. Fucking hospitals sprouting on every corner like mushrooms and hoards of foreign investors hogging overflowing pubs.
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So only 47% of those that voted backed parties in favour of proceeding with Brexit without at least another referendumā¦ so we still have a government/ parliament not aligned to the the will of the majority of the peopleā¦ However, I suspect those crowing about that āaffront to democracyā under the previous parliament will be conspicuous by their silence on the matter nowā¦
Behave yourself, latter day Remainer.
How many Tory landslides are you going to enable before you get it?
Too predictable and rather lamentable - as ever no answer to the the points madeā¦ what are you? Too embarrassed to admit you sided with those who will simply piss all over the poor now they can āget your Brexit doneā?
Thought Pap voted Labour - not Tory
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I did vote Labour.
The ultimate problem is that Politicians need to listen.
It was clear that the election had big issues at stake. If you choose a policy of sticking cotton wool in your ears and going lalaland to the biggest issue you get spanked
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One thing is clear - Corbyn is done and he has acknowledged that.
The question is do the Labour Party persevere with the policies they have and put up another left wing candidate or do they head back towards the centre ground.
The momentum woman has said the loss is solely down to Brexit - almost a self preservation denial that it couldnāt be Corbyn or the policies
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Sorry disagree - what politicians need to do is be honourable to their principles an convictions and if the people donāt like that then so be it.
The last time Labour listened to the people so they could get elected, we got Blair.
People in the UK have been generally Tory since Thatcherāempowered themā by making tax and spend a dirty old fashioned policy and simply shifting the tax burden into VAT and duty so the poor still pay the same in but believe itās their choiceā¦ clever and devious
No if Pap had his choice, Corbyn would simply have stated Labour would fully back Brexit voteā¦ and he believes this would have seen him winā¦ Absurd naive bollocks as he would have alienated nearly 3/4s of his own voters and most likely simply seen a massive swing the the Lib Dems as opposed to a 1/4 swinging to Brexit supporting partiesā¦
Also if we follow your listen logic, then will the government now listen to the 53% who voted with parties offering at least a second Brexit vote?
Do those include honouring manifesto pledges?
Such as promising to respect the result of the referendum?
Iām not sure what Iām witnessing here by the way. Charitably, I might describe it as tenacity. Somewhat less charitably, it smacks of a man continuing to dig because he refuses to acknowledge heās in a hole.
Whatever. I called all this months ago, and sir seems busy enough with the spade.
If itās all the same to you, Iāll continue to rely on my political instincts. They may be flawed, but they do incorporate events from after June 2016.
You seem in a muddle if you may believe that the above represents some sort of eloquent response, it falls so short I struggle to give any fucks about it.
However, The issue is very simple : you appear to believe that those ālatter day remainā voters should have cast aside that opinion and so ensured the non Tory parties stood a chance of defeating the Cons by retaining their Brexit voting voters? correct? In your eyes these are the guilty ones as by refusing to accept the ref result, their parties have become divided and the Brexit issue has over shadowed the more important agenda items ā¦ correct?
Humour me, correct me if i am wrong before I go on
Ps not sure what hole I am inā¦ I will now not be Ā£2400 a year worse off in tax burdenā¦ should laughing all way to the bank at those stupid disenfranchised poor turkeys who voted for Christmasā¦, funnily enough I am notā¦ I am deeply concerned about what this country has become
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The latter day Remainers were an influence in Parliament. They were ennobled by hapless berk losers with planet-sized senses of entitlement.
Even now, when the writing is on the wall, and every pundit out there is saying that the decisive element in this election was Brexit, you refuse to see it.
Iām partially sighted but even I can see that.
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I voted Remain. But I have long ago accepted we need to get on and Leave. It was the result of the referendum, the vast majority of MPs said they would honour it, but most of all the indecision, prevarication and downright blocking of attempts to Leave have been strangling business, in particular.
Boris offered a way out, after 3 years. The Libs decided to try to appeal to remaining Remainers. At least they offered a choice. What killed Labour was, 3.5 years on, the leadership decided it still did not need to make a decision yet. Quite apart from what large numbers of Labour voters did in 2016, this was just craziness.
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Thought Iād do something positive this morning so have made a donation to Trussell Trust. Think they might be needing all the help they can get.
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