Why can't the England team galvanize?

There are many reasons but what is the main one?

Big club attitude and rivalries cause less than 100% to each other?

Because we have nothing really to rally around, a focal point, nearly all other nations come together and have a sense of belonging, because all of our players are based In England its simply routine and not out of the ordinary.

Simply unpatriotic? Possibly but this would be solely an English issue as no other nation is as unpatriotic as us but that much not to care playing for your national team?

Because galvanising is a technical skill and the England football team are not qualified to do it.


Some teams seem to grow at they progress through the rounds. As we usually go out early we lose that effect in the knock out rounds. I was interested to see that Engkand employ a psychologist. It looks like he will be leaving soon!

Because we are not good enough.

Could you imagine Sterling scoring that second goal?

Or Kane on current form scoring the third, let alone being able to take a corner to land in the box?

We have kidded ourselves for fifty years that we have a divine right to be at the top table - sadly we are the Spurs/Liverpool fans of international football.


Maybe because there are no half decent English players in the premiership - except past and present Saints players - obviously.

…because their fat wallets have made them complacent. Their fat wallets have focussed their minds on the unimportant, they have forgotten what is is to be hungry…they think because they play for top teams in the richest leauge in the world they have already made it. They strut through social media believing society hangs on their every word…they believe they are celebrities first and footballer comes a very poor second.

Personally I’d take their smart phones and throw them as far as I could and ban them from making TV ads…it perpetuates the impression to young kids that they are worthy role-models…they are not. :lou_facepalm_2:


Exactly, why should they be coating metals with a protective layer of zinc?


The squad wasn’t bad. Most of us would have chosen the same with a few exceptions. Probably no Sterling and Drinkwater should have been there for example. The players have proved themselves in the Premiership and are not crap. Do we need to find out what happens to them when they are selected to play for England, why that happens, and do something about it. We have had a succession of coaching teams who have failed to deliver, even with the so called golden generation. This isn’t a new problem and has been going on since we won the World Cup. We still can’t decide whether we should select our best players and select a system to suite them or to select a system and find the players best suited for that. Shearer was right when he said we were atrocious, but he needs to remember that he and his peers didn’t win anything either.

Because they are, in the main, a bunch of overpaid, jumped up egotistical spoilt cunts who think the world revolves around them.

Wales, like Iceland and Leicester have proved the value of team work and respect for your fellow team members. The old adage … “There is no ME in Team” comes to mind. Even Gareth Bale comes across as quite humble, and just glad to be a part of what is happening in the Welsh Camp (Ronaldo you gimp take note). Of course Bale was brought up to be respectful in his formative years by the backroom staff at SFC (and I’m sure his family helped a little bit as well :laughing:)

I hope Man U manage to keep Rashford’s feet on the ground. He was one of the very few who looked like he actually gave a fuck when he was on the pitch.

Sturridge with his me me me goal celebrations pretty much sum them all up … superbly put in his place by that little lad at SMS.

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Things haven’t been the same since the arrival of the Premier League and all its money, which happened within a few years of EU free movement of people.

People talk about “hunger” as a metaphor, but it’s not far from the literal truth. The vast majority of footballers come from working class backgrounds, and are driven to succeed in part because of their backgrounds. It’s the ticket out of poverty for the kid kicking a tennis ball about in Sao Paolo or the ruffian launching one at the top corner in Croxteth.

Football players have always been well paid, relative to your average earner on the street, but the sums that they receive, at such a young age, are staggering. Rooney is almost a personification of the issue, which is why I mentioned Croxteth earlier. Absolutely frightening at Everton, the 2004 Euros and his first couple of seasons at United. He quickly got his feet under the table, and his form dipped even further when he got his quarter mil a week contract.

How hungry can you be when you’re on that sort of dough? Especially if you’re caning Lambert & Butler and suppressing your appetite?

I know other international sides have some players that are extremely well paid by their clubs, but you normally have a decent proportion of the team that are plying their trade in the domestic league, earning a fraction of what their team mates earn. Still humble.

The tragedy of this situation is that we’ve got plenty of English players that are humble, but the reliance on big club players, no matter what their form or club position, almost guarantees that we’ll never see that humility save the occasional breakthrough of a player who hasn’t been told the rules and accidentally performs.

Normally from a big club, normally ruined thereafter, because hey, you’re in the England squad now. Stay on the back pages and you’ll stay in the squad. The manager’s position has become such a poisoned chalice since the Sun stitched up Graham Taylor that the FA never picks anyone too risky. The managers simultaneously don’t deviate too much from accepted media wisdom, yet also make inexplicable decisions to show that they’re their own men.

We end up getting the worst of both worlds. An untried Walcott. An unfit Rooney. Taking injured players to tournaments in general. Glass Jack, specifically. To be fair to the pundits, I think they’d have laid off Hodgson if he’d made the call to pick form players this year. They certainly weren’t demanding he pick Rooney or Wilshere.

We need a braver FA, with contemporary football people. We need to stop the near automatic selection of players. We need to able to recognise disruptive and successful players or teams, like MLT or Leicester, and work out how to apply that internationally. A cap should be a hard-won privilege, not a formality, and certainly not after the evidence we’ve just seen.

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Damn you Chertsey :slight_frown: I read Galvanise in the thread title and spotted a chance to post an out of context music vid :astonished: