Multiculturalism requires all the population to happily mix, mate and evolve, that simply is not happening and is different from radicalisation which has many causes.
The two are separate but people desperately out of their depth try to glue them together to find a tenuous racist link to prove they have found a fascist, these people are the main issue, deniers and ignorant with it.
They canât even unite over which âOutâ campaign they want to back. Seems they are in a bit of a mess, plenty are pretty pissed about Nigelâs totally unexpected u-turn re: leadership. Think Carswell fancies himself as leading the party.
Also, where have you seen those stickers? Iâve never once seen them in London, well or anywhere else for that matter. But, London is a big place and Iâd be lying if I had been everywhere.
UKIP are only a small part of the out campaign, many Labour politicians want out, the tories will split over this not UKIP, they are united in their objective.
The biggest labour u turn, after losing an election and pressure from the trade unions mind, do the members of unions vote UKIP?
http://labourlist.org/2014/09/labour-supporters-want-an-eu-referendum-latest-poll-finds/
I mean, thatâs not remotely not what I was talking about. But, sure.
Well what were you talking about?
UKIP in fighting. Really wasnât hard Bazza.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Multiculturalism requires all the population to happily mix, mate and evolve, that simply is not happening and is different from radicalisation which has many causes. The two are separate but people desperately out of their depth try to glue them together to find a tenuous racist link to prove they have found a fascist, these people are the main issue, deniers and ignorant with it.
Multiculturalism dose NOT require the population to mate and evolve - the happily mix is important for sure, but whilst I would love to see a more homogenous population as a result of a more integrated evolution, its not necessary, you can also celebrate diversity Barry⌠I have been saying all along that radiculisation is a seperate issue - its your idea that multiculturalism is a âfailed experiementâ that is bollocksâŚbecause you are suggesting people cant live together and mix⌠some of us are saying that is bollox, they can and history shows us we can. The recent tensions and problems (minority not majority) are NOT a result of multiculturalism failing, but a reflection of geo-political problems - seized upon by existing radicals from both sides - its only the ignorant idiot that would suggest that its all down to some failed experiement.
Years ago I used to live in streatham and there were a few near the mosque there (around st Leonardâs), the sceptic in me thought it might be a far right group trying to stir things. However I mentioned it to a Muslim bloke while waiting for the bus (mental for London I know) but he actually seemed to think it was a good thing due to the proximity of the mosque.
There are other stuff between the bottom of brick lane and Whitechapel. There is also sometimes a stand or two along there promoting sharia law.
I am currently living near the biggest mosque in Western Europe and havenât had any issues at all. Therefore it is just a minority of idiots and radicals in certain areas - Barry Mohammedâs if you will. However I was shocked by what I thought was a moderate Muslimâs attitude. This is part of the issue. While we are telling Barry to pipe down and stop being dumb, because their idoits are doing it in the name of their religion, they rarely say a word against them.
Diversity is not multiculturalism, are we living together in harmony? Is harmony seperate lives and not talking to each other?
Forget recent tensions, this has been going on for years, Trevor Philips talked about it 15 years ago, didnât George Carey blame multiculturalism on people joing ISIS?
Again you are confusing radicalisation with living together, social diversity, the radicals will always come from all parts of society, I am talking about closed neighbourhoods whereby no one speaks to each other, no one mixes, religious schooling, seperate lives, what part of this do you not understand its happening now.
I am not suggesting some people can not live together I am saying it.
During the Napoleonic wars, the citizens of Hartlepool hung a monkey because they thought he was a French human.
We have come a long way.
A French spy, was he a radical monkey or did he what to live in a closed community not contributing to the wider on he lives around?
Maybe he was a homophobic monkey?
Or he didnât like his lady friend driving?
Maybe he was hung for cultural reasons like trying to cut her monkey gash?
I hate to say it but Barry has a point with the faith schools. I think they should all be banned regardless of the religion.
Some kids can go though the majority or their childhood and not really mix with someone from a different religion. If the faith is tied to one specific area of the world, this means they are living in a bubble of that world in the UK. How can this be a good thing?
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Originally posted by @Tokyo-Saint
I hate to say it but Barry has a point with the faith schools. I thin they should all be banned regardless of the religion.
Some kids can go though the majority or their childhood and not really mix with someone from a different religion. If the faith is tied to one specific area of the world, this means they are living in a bubble of that world in the UK. How can this be a good thing?
We should still celebrate diversity, if we canât celebrate multiculturalism.
We live separate lives in separate areas, in separate schools but still these fanatics want to celebrate!, they canât see its sad and a wasted opportunity, faiths donât allow us to breed and mix and be happy.
The fact is often the biggest proponents of multiculturalism are white people with faux guilt.
Was the monkey French?
Originally posted by @Sadoldgit
Originally posted by @pap
During the Napoleonic wars, the citizens of Hartlepool hung a monkey because they thought he was a French human.
We have come a long way.
Was the monkey French?
He had that Gallic swagger yes.
This all seems a bit overly complicated. I find itâs easier to just say âdonât be a cuntâ.
A bit more of that would make Britain truly âGreatâ.