:trumpdumb: Trumped!

We all dislike Trump but consistently whinging about it is futile, boorish and shit.
How many did Obama deport?
How many wars did he sponsor?
Did he do what he said he would?

Like Labour in 97, a wasted 8 years for progressive politics, did we bleat everyday about Obama?

No.

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uhmmm. let me think about that for a moment Barry… nope really cant see why we shoudl follow your troll advice here Bazza…‘the leader of the free world’ is a complete loon, who does ot even think, research or know the truth before making quite riduiculous and dangerous proclamations and you dismiss this with a glib ‘stop whining’… stop being a fucking huge ‘whopper’

Are you suggesting folks stop whining about Blair taking us to war on false info?

Obama, did things many find uncomfortable, but the assumption is his decsions were not based on what he found inside his Kinder Egg egg that morning or the shouting from bizzare US online loud mouth biggots… there is a teenie weenie bit of a difference I suggest… :lou_facepalm_2:

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Pretty major “Political Scandal” already.

Trumps National Security Advisor Micahel Flynn has to resign for illegally discussing US Diplomatic Issues while a private citizen

Then because it was illegal we get into the what did Trump know game.

They are doing their best to get kicked out before they can do real damage

Oh and Flynn’s kid lost his job for an indiscretion as well

Been removed from YouTube already.

Even it hadn’t been, what practical difference would it have made?

Asking for Blair to stand trial in an illegal war isn’t bleating, its right.

Its politics, an example I’ll give is this.

"A person a very bad one is in West Belfast, he has done some bad things we know it but it will be impossible for him to stand trial, another group of people want to see harm come to him, so this group gives information of his where abouts and then said other group kill him in the name of their cause, collusion with the state I think it is called, do you think this went on and do you think this was deniably sanctioned?

Its a dirty fucking game politics,whatever side left or right, blood on hands everywhere.

Its all fucked up.

I’ve put a new link into my post.

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Don’t you think this one has a passing resemblance to Trump?

I’m going to call him Donald-Dick

Omg! I agree with Bazza!

Democracies try and push democracy onto places. Some of those places have evil Dictators but often they are keeping a Nation state together. When those evil Dictators are removed in this region especially a greater evil has come to the fore & far FAR more innocent people have suffered.

Now ridding us of evil is a very good thing but it takes time & money to rebuild all the clean civil structures, democracy doesn’t vote for that so the West has tended to run away. Leaving more years of evil.

Now. The problem then comes when you look at Benevolent Dictators. They build nations with a view and policy and strategy that is longer than 4 or 5 years. People get screwed by people tgerecas much as elsewhere, but should the West fight to destroy that? Wouldn’t a benevolent long term leader who only has the Nation at heart be better?

Would (for a silly example) the Queen have allowed you to invade Iraq? Allow Bankers to go unpunished for destroying so many lives? Let the NHS die while bailing out said banks & giving big contracts to friends for HS2 with money the NHS needs?

At tge end of tge day the only people concerned about politics want something rather than accepting life is shit && fighting for their own piece of the pie for family.

Me? I want to become a benefits millionaire. Fuck everyone & everything it’s all lies cheats and shit.

Apart from Facebook Friends & Sotonians of course

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I’m not sure whether this a gesture to Trump, a gesture towards Scotland or a comment about golf. You decide…

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Post truth and alternative facts to cover up botched raid authorised by Mr Trump.

Mattis is correct in saying more needs to be spent on defence concerning NATO, why should many get America’s backing and commitment for less than the agreed price? Only 5 of the 28 NATO nations pay the minimum they all agreed to.

You’re right Bazza. If The Donald forces Europeans to start paying their way, that’ll be a massive tick in his favour.

It’s only 4 isn’t it?

On Tuesday, the International Institute for Strategic Studies thinktank said in its annual military balance report that UK defence spending had fallen to 1.98% in 2016.

They’re having a Day Without Immigrants protest today.

In cities around America, thousands of construction companies, restaurants and other businesses are bracing for “A Day Without Immigrants,” a combination boycott/strike that highlights the contributions of immigrants to U.S. business and culture.

The movement is a response to President Trump’s immigration agenda, which includes a pledge to seal the U.S. border with Mexico and a travel ban on citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries (which is now on hold).

Some businesses are closing for the day; others are staying open and pledging to contribute a share of the day’s proceeds to nonprofits that aid Latino communities. In a number of cases, business owners are abiding by their staffs’ wishes, after holding votes to decide whether to open.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/16/515555428/a-day-without-immigrants-promises-a-national-strike-thursday

I’ve seen this guy on TV two nights in a row. Can’t say I am a fan.

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I am considering a Trump ban of my own. We will not watch him (plus his sidekicks) on our TV /tablets or listen to him on Radio in our home. As with Trump I am not winning this ban currently. I didnt appreciate listening to Kelly Anne Conway this morning whilst in bed as my partner wanted to watch whatever car crash interview she’d done. He did conceded that was a step too far. I’ve had to leave the front room due to the rally.

The rally he is having reminds me of rallies in the past for other narcissistic leaders.