At least he hasn’t been noshed off by a farmyard corpse.
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Not that we know of!
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Southern Tory councils to benefit from £300m ‘cushion’ to cope with deep spending cuts. Many Northern and inner-city councils get nothing.
Bribe the marginals. Win elections.
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Take this with the pinch of salt that polling seems to require these days, but according to a new MORI poll, 64% of the public blame the government for the junior doctors strike. Just 13% consider junior doctors to blame.
Gf was out picketing this morning, good on her. A number of the more senior doctors have supported, and in some cases encouraged them in their endeavours. They are fully aware this is an attack on the NHS.
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A few more cancelled operations and that will start to change.
it is an odd one this. If you were designing a health service from scratch you would look at it from a 7 day perspective. A doctor would be required to work 250 days less holiday per year. That some of the day’s worked was a weekend would be immaterial.
now we are at the imposition stage, I wonder how the doctors will react. Interestingly I remember reading that the senior doctors were urging the juniors to be more moderate.
Do you reckon?
I’m not so sure myself. The sort of stuff that the liar Jeremy Hunt was spinning prior to the strike was much more damaging, both to the cause of the junior doctors and the general health of the public.
He tried to make out like we don’t have a seven day health service, when he knows full well that A+E has always run for seven days, and that it is only non-emergency operations that will be affected. He even attributed 11,000 deaths to it.
Hunt has been pulled up on his figures time and time again, the squirmfest on Marr being a decent recent example. Now I’m sure one (or more) of the newspapers will publish a hit piece on how shit junior doctors are this week. I reckon someone scheduled for an operation on the striking days is going to be inconvenienced.
People love their NHS though, so I would be surprised to see Hunt’s spin work on them, when it hasn’t done before.
Imposition of pay cuts in Southampton City Council meant some people left, some with a lot of experience. Low moral followed. It was a very shit time for workers. Oh and it was a tory council who imposed it. That awful Royston Smith. Who then was elected an MP last year.
My step gran passed away in hospital yesterday. If you see any stats on deaths on the day of the strike know hee death had nothing to do with junior doctor’s strike and she would have been behind them wholeheartedly. So take 1 off that stat.
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Is this just about money? I said to a guy I walk my dog with who just passed out as a junior doctor and now has a full time position at a hospital?
He said its about weekends payments and unsocial hours, so I said it was then he couldn’t really answer that.
Of course its about money people don’t do it for free, hence the threat of them going to Australia if they don’t get their way, I’m all for striking and all for a higher wage but don’t tell us its raining when you’re pissing in someones pocket.
Its always about money and conditions.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Is this just about money? I said to a guy I walk my dog with who just passed out as a junior doctor and now has a full time position at a hospital? He said its about weekends payments and unsocial hours, so I said it was then he couldn’t really answer that. Of course its about money people don’t do it for free, hence the threat of them going to Australia if they don’t get their way, I’m all for striking and all for a higher wage but don’t tell us its raining when you’re pissing in someones pocket. Its always about money and conditions.
It’s not just about money. Throughout, the junior doctors have pointed out to the gradual privatisation of the NHS, how the changes will affect patients and how the Health Secretary is putting lives at danger by suggesting that people are more likely to die if they visit a hospital at the weekend.
As stated before, those figures were based on the inclusion of Fridays and Mondays; Saturday and Sunday are actually statistically safer than either. His claims simply don’t work if you cross reference them with the traditional idea of what a weekend is.
So yeah, when you’ve got a Health Secretary putting the health of the nation in danger, it’s about more than just the money. Remember that his last job was as Culture Secretary working to allow Rupert Murdoch to get more of a stake in BSkyB.
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Have the doctors asked for a reduction in hours? The NHS is shite anyway as we dont put enough money into it, its crap compared to most of the other similar schemes in the World as they fund theirs (through taxes and insurance) , we train ours superbly and they fuck off to Australia, New Zealand and other places (regardless of this) for more money hence the amount of foreign doctors we have, its not rocket science is it?
Fund it properly and it will be good, a half way house is bollocks, I’m far more concerned about the care we recieve full after we reach an age where we cant care for ourselves, thats totally broken and kept running by people on minimum wage.
The NHS is a bloated cow, mingy and diseased to boot.
It is always about the money.
I’d happily pay more tax for a better system than we have now, you can not get an appointment with your doctor if you try, the last time I did I was told if it wasn’t an emergency then the next appointment was 10 days later, one thing they are superb at is the childrens walk in on Smithdown.
Jeremy Hunt to impose the new contract on junior doctors regardless.
Never mind, kids. A general strike is all that can go wrong.
He’ll be using the 90 day rule which means he can fail to recognise the unions and impose what he wants, I would imagine the NHS union will be as strong as shitroll, Tarquin and Veronica will be moving soon I now gather.
Historically, isn’t it at this point when negotiations have failed, that the Conservative government normally sends in riot police and the army to physically smash up the pickets?
The shots of junior doctors being chased across wasteland and beaten with batons should make interesting viewing in this new digital era.
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My understanding is that they are unhappy with doing more hours and that being dangerous for patients. I get that. I’d like a doctor who is on the ball and hopefully rested to be making life or death decisions.
Yeah the NHS isn’t perfect at all. But it saves people daily.
To me this is just the start of making it rubbish so private companies can come in and take over.
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Intiniki, I believe you are correct.
Break the NHS, make it unworkable, and then we can all buy private healthcare.
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Yup, it’s exactly what they do.
Which is why, as I said above the more senior doctors and consultants fully back them. They know it is an attack on the nhs, and they know it will be them soon.
It’s the same pattern as what happened to teaching, undermine, under fund, decimate morale and then sell it off. Staggering short-termism that is going to do no one any good, save a tiny minority who will make a profit. Joy.
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The ones I feel sorry for are the people who voted Tory and didn’t realise this is what they would get.
Of course I fucking don’t - they are getting exactly what they voted for, so when the NHS grinds to a halt they should be all smug and uncaring - just like they normally are.
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Every time Hunt opens his lying mouth he shoves me a bit more from the centre - at this rate I’ll be alongside brother Corbyn by the weekend - with only the gingery ghost of Scargill and brother Pap to my left!
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