:tories: Tories in trouble?

(Please)

I must confess I had the same thoughts about this place starting to mirror SWF, but hopefully by avoiding the political threads as much as I can, I will find peace and harmony again :lou_is_a_flirt:

Think its OK Bucks - plenty of heated and passionate debate, but without the vicious bitterness and bullying that is prevalent on SWF… and ignored by the mods

Ok. So my work colleagues have left me and I’m in final stages off the tasting platter in The Stablee in Southampton (note Bucks ).

And I’m just hoovering up the leftovers… 7.5% cider if you’re interested.

Anyway, those 'threatening - to withdraw their support for Sotonians need to grow a pair. Pap’s a twat and I’m a prick, but a more principled a site could not wish to find.

We might be wrong, and often are, but we do it with principles.

Debate or fuck off.

Sorry, pissed. x

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File under Clueless Cameron…

David Cameron was caught in a new hypocrisy row for trying to save his own local police stations ­as the force struggled with cuts.

Number 10 said the Prime Minister’s lobbying was in his capacity as a local MP who thought savings could be made without hitting front-line services, the Sunday People reports.

Guess he didn’t realise his country wide cuts would hit his constituency. He does know his constituency is in the country, right?

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MP annoyed at national policy imposing cuts on his constituency?..

He should take it up with someone senior, perhaps ask a question of himself in parliament that he can then ignore by talking about something else.

Or email Corbyn, he’ll read it out so it can be ignored.

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Originally posted by @Rallyboy

Or email Corbyn, he’ll read it out so it can be ignored.

It would be so fucking funny if Corbyn says “I’ve got a letter from David who has written to his local MP”.

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Its not difficult to understand. Cameron argues the cuts could come from back office / admin areas, not frontline officers. I have no idea who is right (I doubt any newspaper knows either) but the issue is relatively simple to follow if you want to.

I thought the authority had said that back office had been cut to the bone already and that they had no choice?

They may just be making mischief, which as a council in this situation is easy to do, but it seems a bit of an odd yet predictable disagreement.

It’s too difficult to understand for Cameron, who seems to believe that after cutting everything to the bone, that there are still savings to be made. This is a problem that the Conservatives consistently have, just not having a fucking clue.

If it wasn’t so serious, it’d be funny. The “Hunt effect” has been used to describe the phenomenon of people not seeking medical treatment at the weekends, largely based on Jeremy Hunt’s fact free claims that no fucker was working at those times.

Remember the two types of Tory, as identified by TheCholulaKid.

  1. Selfish
  2. Haven’t thought it through

Cameron is both.

The Tories posing another question that no-one should have to answer. Is it possible to live with no money for 42 days?

Design flaws in the government’s troubled universal credit system are leaving vulnerable claimants hundreds of pounds in debt and dependent on food banks, according to a study of how the system is working in practice.

The main cause of difficulty is a built-in delay to universal credit which requires claimants to wait at least 42 days before receiving a benefit payment. This has left some claimants penniless, stressed, forced to borrow cash to pay rent or utility bills and struggling to buy food.

There’s always Wonga. Adrian Beecroft, Tory donor with a major stake in the firm, must be laughing all the way to the bank.

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I fucking hate tory ideology.

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Just got this thru email. Despite attracting over double the signatures required, Parliament won’t debate a vote of no confidence in David Cameron.

The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.

It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.

It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare.

The government’s petitions service uses Amazon’s spam mailer to send its emails out. Beautiful. More revenue for that big delivery business, eh?

This month, a woman who stole a 75p packet of Mars bars was fined £328. She hadn’t eaten in days, had no money for food due to her benefits being withheld, and was so desperate that she stole the cheapest food item in the shop.

If it hadn’t been for a generous online observer, who campaigned to fund the fine, she would eventually have been hauled in front of the court again and potentially faced a prison sentence for failing to produce the money.

Her story caused outrage at the lack of compassion and common sense that the court’s decision revealed. But the most sinister part of this news is that such ridiculous stories are cropping up in courts all over the country, due to a new legal fee the government included in the Criminal Justice and Courts Act, which passed in February.

Other examples include a homeless man charged ÂŁ900 for shoplifting, multiple cases of people charged ÂŁ150 for begging, and one man hit with ÂŁ300 worth of costs for stealing three bottles of baby milk (see below).

The criminal courts charge is a fee adult offenders have to pay towards the cost of administering a criminal court case if they are convicted of, or plead guilty for, a crime. A blanket fee that cannot be changed according to the severity of the offence, the criminal courts charge is not means-tested, and cannot be waived.

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Malnutrition causing thousands of hospital admissions. Something for aspirational Tory voters to choke down with their meal tonight.

The graph that the article contains seems a bit more mixed that the headline - malnutrition admissions has gone down in some trusts (Birmingham, Yeovil, Heart of England). Manchester clearly has an alraming increase which needs addressing.

I would like to see a greater range of dates going back say 10 years to get a more meaningful insight.

I enjoy a half decent lifestyle, I’m neither rich nor poor.

I fucking hate criminals with a passion and I’m no fan of benefit cheats, but that doesn’t make me Norman Tebbit.

However, as a country we now look VERY mean spirited to anyone who is struggling, we’re kicking people who cannot afford to eat and that’s shameful.

In 2015 you’re fine as long as you don’t get ill, poor or old, and that is not the approach of a civilised society.

I love synth music, but I don’t want the 80s back.

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You have posted something very similar before, about “poverty related illnesses” and the reality last time was no one knows how many such illnesses are caused by poverty or lifestyle decisions.

Absolute bastards.

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To a similar fingers in the ears response :lou_surprised:

I suppose that the only avenue that remains to the right in the face of such broad harm being done to the general populace is to pretend that individual cases cannot be quantified. Thing is, Bucks, you’re saying all of this after five years of foodbank and loan shark expansion.

FFS, don’t take your eyes off that tree, mush. There are woods out there! Woods!