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Originally posted by @KRG

what does down voting achieve? I’d bet $$$ that come end of year we know who will have received the most.

You knew what Barry does, it’s the exact same as on swf when it was always Cortege, Clappers or Gaston. Yet, you courted him and encouraged it.

What’s the point in trying to discuss anything? It seems pointless at the moment. Much like the point it got to on swf.

I think Barry is a decent presence on here, on balance. I agree that he’s recently written a load of shite, which people, including yourself, have produced some very funny posts off the back of, which manage to render any nonsense more meaningless than it already is.

I would much rather see that than start thinking about how to curtail debate. Barry has to deal with the consequences of whatever he writes. People may think him idiot, buffoon, or genius on that basis.

Barry is already the most edited poster on here. We edit his threads to make him look like a tit, or at least distinguish it from overall site opinion, and I’ve locked some of them in the past. I don’t get any complaints from him. None.

Self-moderation is key, and I don’t see many occasions where I need to actually moderate. People ignore the kneejerk thread creations, and they disappear.

I think you’re focusing on a very narrow part of the Sotonians experience, and kind of missing a big point. Barry is this thread’s Donald Trump. He is not letting a lack of facts translate into a lack of content.

You’re free to ignore him, and others will take up the charge. You’re free to engage his limited collection of phrases and demonstrate their complete fucking inapplicability to anything being said, now, or perhaps ever.

But let’s not silence the boy. That is not the Sotonians way.

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So, letting the boy silence everyone else through sheer exasperation is preferable? Discussion is becoming impossible on most threads. It’s the exact same pattern most of us have seen before.

Watching Baz in threads often reminds me of this quote*:

*I don’t think Barry is an idiot, I should add. But, it’s mostly still applicable.

Barry gets his arguments taken apart constantly. Yet, in his head he is right, and represents the entire population. He changes his arguments, and denies doing so. And drags any discussion away from it’s starting point. No matter how many people rip his arguments to shreds. Nothing changes, he just comes back with another stream of buzzwords.

I’m really struggling to see the benefit of this?

I’ve no doubt he’s a decent chap, as folk who have met him will attest to. And, as I said before, when he first joined he was a decent contributor. I didn’t always agree, but that’s fine. We’re know just getting the old Barry we’ve seen before, that sucks the life out of the place. That’s a bad thing.

Like I’ve said, people will base their opinions based on people’s content. I’ve a reasonable idea of forum mechanics, and provocative posters like Barry have a very reasonable function within those mechanics. It’s why I could never get upset at Turkish once I’d worked out what he was. He fulfilled a function, and if people chose to get wound up at what was some fairly obvious trolling, then don’t condemn me if I consider his victims as entertainment, because they’ve obviously failed to spot the troll.

I am not saying Barry is an out-and-out troll, but as I found out quite publicly, he likes a bit of a wind up.

I actually think things would be a lot calmer between the pair of you if you’d met at one of these drinks events. All you’ve got to go on is the posted content here, which isn’t really a reflection of the man’s views or demeanour in person. A lot of us have met Barry and can now take his stuff with the much needed pinch of salt.

Doesn’t stop us from having a pop at some of his more ridiculous claims, but it has helped a lot in collective self moderation.

As I said, I don’t doubt he’s a decent chap. I’d happily have a pint with him. I’ve said before, I suspect a lot of it is indeed a wind up.

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I’d have a ā€œchatā€ with him.

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I feel bad because Barry is being berated for dragging the thread of topic, but I also tried to do that yesterday when I found myself bored at work. I’m just as bad as Barry, if not worse.

I’m going to infract and possibly ban myself.

I thought the Trump Man was Australian. I still think he might be. He’s all like ā€œwe don’t want no mozzers in our countryā€ and that seems to be an australian kind of opinion + works well in australian accent. I think they should check his p.sport just in case.

Edit: Soz, off topic. Barry is the best poster on papsweb RIP

I feel bad for Barry because his comments would be appreciated so much more on Saintsweb, but he got banned.

I feel an urge to start agreeing with him just so he’s not lonely. :frowning:

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He draws in the Punters tho. I’m gonna have to read back laters to see what all the Barry comments are that made i.e. krg cry, and there is no less incentive than that which would make me read back 5 pages of the horseshit all u bros write while I’m Away RIP

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There’s nothing to agree with though. That’s the point, it’s all just ā€œsandal wearersā€, ā€œpinkosā€, ā€œfascist leftā€, ā€œhate the countryā€. It’s impossible to effectively engage in.

Available now:

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Guys and gals, the irony here is I haven’t posted on this for hours and neither has anyone else concerning Trump, I wanna change my name to Barry Trump.

I feel the love though.

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i posted bout trump you helmet i did it at 48 mins ago

Sorry couldn’t understand Beersy, I thought you were going on about Helmut Kohl and Dame Edna.

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I still don’t know what a pinko is. Can someone explain? :lou_sad:

http://www.streamytv.net/pink-o-18/

soz didn’t realise that would be quite so nsfw soz

I’m still at work and my desk position means I have back to main walkway. Please give me something that won’t embarrass me!

Is this related to your new job bear? i.e. have you gone back to being a fluffer?

Working from home today Bear, so all good.