🇺🇸 💣 The US Presidential Race

All a politician needs to do (in a situation such as the first point on that video regarding gay marriage) is put their hands up and say ’ I changed my mind as I was wrong’ I have listened to the people who disagreed with me and following an intellectual process have decided my view has changed. I am big enough to admit I was wrong. We want people in power who do not believe themselves to be infallible. Not indecisive I grant you , but also not afraid to say I cocked up.

Same goes for personal politics - it drives my dad mad that I am a floating voter. Over time I have voted for each of the major parties based on what was happening and the information I had at the time. I make no apologies for it. As soon as you say ‘I know’ then you stop asking questions, and only by asking questions can you hope to arrive at anything close to the truth.

Sorry - feeling a bit philosophical today

Hilary also has conjunctivitis, presumably she has caught some sperm in her eye

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John Pilger has weighed in with an article on the US Presidency. He’s not that happy with Sanders either.

It was Hillary Clinton who, as Secretary of State in 2010, elevated the competing territorial claims for rocks and reef in the South China Sea to an international issue; CNN and BBC hysteria followed; China was building airstrips on the disputed islands. In a mammoth war game in 2015, Operation Talisman Sabre, the US and Australia practiced “choking” the Straits of Malacca through which pass most of China’s oil and trade. This was not news.

Clinton declared that America had a “national interest” in these Asian waters. The Philippines and Vietnam were encouraged and bribed to pursue their claims and old enmities against China. In America, people are being primed to see any Chinese defensive position as offensive, and so the ground is laid for rapid escalation. A similar strategy of provocation and propaganda is applied to Russia.

Clinton, the “women’s candidate”, leaves a trail of bloody coups: in Honduras, in Libya (plus the murder of the Libyan president) and Ukraine. The latter is now a CIA theme park swarming with Nazis and the frontline of a beckoning war with Russia. It was through Ukraine - literally, borderland - that Hitler’s Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, which lost 27 million people. This epic catastrophe remains a presence in Russia. Clinton’s presidential campaign has received money from all but one of the world’s ten biggest arms companies. No other candidate comes close.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/silencing-america-as-it-prepares-for-war

More clashes at Trump rally.

Whoever gets in power come November, it will be a huge step back for America!

John Pilger’s never happy though … It’s his job to be an angry anti establishment figure and use phrases like “swarming with Nazi’s” really? Hilary Clinton “leaves a trail of bloody coups” It’s very evocative language and sells papers

“Hitler’s Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, which lost 27 million people. This epic catastrophe remains a presence in Russia. Clinton’s presidential campaign has received money from all but one of the world’s ten biggest arms companies. No other candidate comes close”

Really?

Originally posted by @TedMaul

John Pilger’s never happy though … It’s his job to be an angry anti establishment figure and use phrases like “swarming with Nazi’s” really? Hilary Clinton “leaves a trail of bloody coups” It’s very evocative language and sells papers

Really?

Much of Ukraine joined in with the actual Nazis back in the day. During the recent trouble, the parties that have emerged have been from the far right, and do things like hang around in militias, not a great deal different from the SA back in the day.

There’s also nowt wrong with what he’s saying about Hillary.

On the “sells papers” bit, maybe, but aside from the Guardian (which doesn’t seem to be running this article) I don’t see his work as some sort of sensationalist commercial vehicle.

Journalists write well. If they didn’t, they probably wouldn’t be decent journalists. Independent journalists are always going to have a go at the establishment.

“Hitler’s Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, which lost 27 million people. This epic catastrophe remains a presence in Russia. Clinton’s presidential campaign has received money from all but one of the world’s ten biggest arms companies. No other candidate comes close”

Really?

Help us out here. Which bit did you actually dispute, and what’s the basis of your disagreement?

Just found this. Bit rude.

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Your search history must be a scary place!

You don’t stumble across that image while seeking out transfer rumours or spares for your model train collection.

It was actually on Facebook.

JBoy added me to an interesting group awhile back :slight_smile:

As we head to California for next Tuesday’s primary, the state deals with an influx of new voter registrations.

I wonder if they’re signing up for Hillary? The Indy seems to think they’re Sanders supporters, and that she could lose the nomination on the basis of results here.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-elections-hillary-clinton-could-lose-democratic-nomination-to-bernie-sanders-a7059076.html

Why they love Trump

Originally posted by @BTripz

Why they love Trump

The really depressing thing I see is the

“He’s honest” or “Says how it is” lines. He isn’t, and he lies repeatedly. This isn’t even hard to prove, and has shifted his stance on plenty loads (Iraq, being a big one).

The “he’s a great businessman” one is utter trash too. He was born into mega wealth, inherited it all - and by some estimates is now worse off than if he just left the money in the bank. Not to mention the number of bankruptcies he has been involved with.

How fucking idiotic to you have to be to fall for this bollocks? Like fuck is someone like Trump going to do anything that has even the slightest bit of a positive impact on the average American.

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Lol KRG, in the next couple of years we could be out of Europe, during a Trumop presidency and facing 5 years of Boris as PM

What is really astounding is that all three have evens chance of happening

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All political commentary and its validity are undone by the fact he has left the fucking teabag in.

Muppet

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That’s your fucking issue?

Personally, I thought lack of a digestive tract would be of more concern to a medical professional!

Being British trumps all considerations, I guess.

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However, its a brilliant suggestion from Hillary. I am convinced that if he wasn’t able to walk in to a shop and buy a firearm under her suggested rule, then he would certainly not have been able to obtain one in any other way.

The future is bright

Probably due to the flash from a fucking atom bomb.

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Jesus fucking Christ, Hilary

I remember how it felt on the day after 9/11

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It is time to get back to the spirit of those days. The Spirit of 9/12.