Worts thing is investors at the moment - hope it will calm down in future, but its the impact its having on the cost of ‘ordinary’ stuff that is the problem… relatively common 18 or 21 years old should not be more than £50-£60, but most now £85-£130 or so… because they know folks will pay it.
Best advice now is to try some independent bottlings - much better values, usually cask strength, non-chill filtered and natural colour…
You will never get it back - cognac, Bordeaux and burgundy have gone the same way and the prices have never regressed. in some cases they have kept on going
(having said that, I use these to pick up stuff that is a bargain, say 90s bottles of standard 10 years old like highland park… better quality than toady and cheaper than the current stuff as goes for about £25-30 etc
By the way… if you are a bit more strapped, and don’t mind a blend, Lidl’s own brand ‘Queen Margot’ 3 year old Blend is worth a punt, only £10.99 and puts the big blended brands like Grouse to shame. poor a glass, drop of water and its a decent dram… they have used good quality sourced casks and taken time to produce a decent blend despite its youthfulness.
Fucking horrendous… mind you, all the known brands have sold their souls… mostly producing very average releases, scraping in 40% vol legal minimum, adding E105 caramel colouring became the masses think darker whisky is better… which is bollocks, because colour depend son cask type, previous use, and age… chill filtering because yanks and occasional drinkers need to put ice in it because they don’t really like the taste (and ice cools so that you get less of the flavour) - so that it removes many of the cloudy haze caused by wood oils when chilled, yet are part of the taste… producing non-age statement shite that is designed for those who buy 1 bottle a year in duty free/christmas… and think because they charge more it will fool those who buy it in to thinking its good…
…My advice for a better Malt experience is simple:
Only buy stuff with an age statement
Only buy stuff that is at least 46% by Volume
Only buy stuff that states on the bottle that it is natural colour
Only buy stuff that states on the bottle that is is non-chill filtered
Try lots of independent bottlings and dont be put off its its younger eg 7 or 8 years
Stay away from ‘big brands’ - eg Macallan, Genmorangie, Lagavulin, Bowmore, Glenlivet, Glenfiddich etc - all punting about very average stuff at 40% for the mass market
Try lots of different smaller less well know distileries
Try lost of Lowland Campeltown stuff… Springbank, Longrow, Kilkerran, Daftmill… all very very good…
If you like peat/Islay whiskies, try Ardbeg and Caol Ila instead of Laphraoig/Lagavulin and Bowmore
Whatever you drink, do so with pals and have a good time, the best whisky in the world is the one you drink when your best pals are there to enjoy it
Haha… you should try Lidls Queen Margot 3 year old as well … At least it’s got an honest age statement… OK it will be a young blend and contain a load of grain whisky as well (which can be good) but at the price it’s work a punt … you and always improve these considerably by adding a teaspoon of Ardbeg or Caol Ila to the the dramzz both those are great for turning an average blend into something pretty good.
As well the the obscenity of the price, this sadly has an affect on the price very good and very drinkable whiskies that are a bit rarer.
That price has nothing to do with quality. I would even suggest it’s probably not even that good. At 60 years from a cask that only gave 40 bottles, suggests that the the original cask was spent and deteriorating quite a while ago and may have been split into a number of smaller casks - the alcohol content will be low, and the cask influence very strong… but with Macallan, Rich collectors pay a lot for stuff that is very average… simply because of historic reputation… yet it was never that much better than any other good quality Sherry influenced Malt… just had bigger marketing budgets.
Nowadays it’s massive with the owners having spent 100s of millions on the new distillery - so they keep releasing low volume highly aged stuff at stupid prices as they k ow they can get them.
Like I said, it’s great news for collectors as value if their investment has seen year on year double digit growth over last 20 years… in deed much of the good stuff form well branded or small ‘cult or closed distilleries’ stuff that you could buy for say between 60-100 in 2002, is mostly between £800-£2000 now.
But for the drinker it’s shit because you have two issues, you now can’t afford those that Malt fans really want to taste, and second, if you are lucky enough to have an unopened bottle, that you paid £60 for and is now worth £2000, do you open it? Or sell it? Or keep it?
Best quote I heard was ‘drink it with great friends, otherwise they will just all be drinking it at your funeral anyway’ (yet the irony is that in denying the collector another bottle to be hoarded, the value goes up with every bottle drunk)
Nearest collectable I has was a museum release Wine direct from an Aus vinyard in Hunters Valley.
Stored in a wine fridge it had cost about $50.
4 years later it was close to $250 in value.
Kids had a party when I was travelling. I found 1/3rd the bottle left over 2 weeks after the party hidden in the veggie tray of the normal fridge.
Kids still have nightmares about it never forgiven them
I’ve got a few bottles of French red wine from the 1930s(+ one champagne 36). They’ve been sat in garage for just over 19 years. Still haven’t got round to getting them looked at. One day(maybe) i will.