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I think there’s more to it than that.

This is probably worth a read. The seeds were apparently being sown well before the referendum.

As the make up of the EU is likely to change significantly in the upcoming elections in the next few weeks and the centrist coalitions may well lose their majority to a right wing coalition, it will be interesting to see how this affects the EU’s outlook and operation. And the UK’s relationship with them.

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There will be hand wringing, whining etc from the technocrats - the result will be against democracy (ironically)

You have to wonder why there is a rise in right wing governments across Europe

It’s alright. They’ll just rerun anything they can’t ignore or overturn, like when Ireland voted against the Lisbon treaty.

Sweden is quite an interesting case. They joined the EU in '95, but refuse to scrap the Krona. The EU maintains that they have to, as part of the joining agreement, but the Swedish public have consistently voted against it. It will be interesting to see how the EU eventually forces them to cave in.

Assuming they do.

I really don’t get why people think the EU is monolithic.

Prejudice?

Unwillingness to acknowledge/ understand why the EU exists in the first place?

Little Englanders? etc etc ad nauseum.

If people want to rail against the EU then fine, but people are also allowed to be pro-EU (where I nail my colours to the mast) :roll_eyes:

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That’s only really starting to be made clear now. The EEC was a different animal, based on the principle that trading nations are less likely to go to war with each other. The EU is a completely different prospect, effectively a supranational government, and the two can’t be equated.

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This is what really grates my gears - It’s that same old hackneyed argument trotted out every time. Nothing new?

Yes but that same hackneyed argument is the truth, the British people voted to join an economic community not a European Union of States.

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…and they voted to get out of it when it became clear that full political union was the direction of travel.

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Exit polls from the EU elections predicting a very sharp pull to the right.

I’m not bothered about the rest of the continent, but I’m a bit concerned about Austria and Germany. :flushed::smile:

What about le France?

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As long as there new President is not called William le Conquerer it will not be a problem for us.

He is not giving up his job - he has in effect dissolved parliament - this is for the MPs and the prime minister

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Excellent news. The threat of an imminent invasion has been averted. :+1:

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