Wee Nicky could be in hot water.
The SNP have another idea. Can anyone guess what it is?
Obviously the good idea to give food bank volunteers the vaccine earlier?
I do have to ask, what is your issue with the SNP? Are you one of those who believe its all anti-english rhetoric? Well as an Englishman in Scotland, I have never had any more the odd bit of banter around sport, despite the hideousness of Westminster politics pissing all over the will of people in Scotland.
If its because they want independence… well it is the reason for their existence - their main policy, so not sure they can be criticised for campaigning for it and seeking another referendum, when there is such a significant change such as brexit.
So what is your dislike based on? If its the misconception that they are all baying anti-english wankers, you are wrong - sure there are a few wrong-ons, but then as your critique of Labour, The tories, the Lib dems (is there any party that can live up your personal expectations?) shows, all parties do.
I think they’re a bunch of snake-oil salesmen, that they’re deeply corrupt, have wasted thirteen years of government in Scotland, used devolution for pretty much the opposite purpose it was intended for and turn a blind eye to the very real problem of anti-English racism.
On the latter, they have to. That’s their political base.
And name me a party without them ?
And name me a party that is not
(Although examples of SNP corruption would be preferred since that is quite a significant accusation)
They have made a lot of errors (but then again so have all parties) and the errors begun when Labour still dominated Holyrood… but ‘wasted’ is really not fair. There are some good devolved decisions that benefit ordinary people, and given the increased costs of ensuring public services are distributed to many isolated regions and communities, its a fair attempt
This you need to elaborate on - if its the independence campaigning thing again, well that is their policy, its clear, transparent etc… and majority here have voted for them to do it - democracy init
Er, no, There is a small minority, and you do sound like a cliche when you mention this without ever providing examples that are not isolated incidents, The vast majority of Scottish people are ashamed when these incidents happen. You are just making unfounded seeping accusations akin to ‘Labour is full of anti-semites led by Corbyn…’
No it’s not. Thats like saying Brexit supporters are all racist because they wanted independence from the EU… same principle is it not?
So what is the idea that has rattled you so this morning?
Look, I know you love them because they’re keen to become an EU backwater, especially if it means they can hurt us.
I say let them do it. Be careful what you wish for on a country wide basis.
I have lived here for much longer than the whole EU/Brexit debacle (1989-1994, 2008-preset day) so my like for Scotland and Scottish people is based on that, not the more recent issues
You also need to remember that the 63% who voted remain in Scotland were supporters of all Parties, not just the SNP. In fact, 38% of SNP voted leave (about the same as labour voters)
How can an ‘EU backwater’ hurt ‘us’ - surely Englands freedom from the EU means we cant be ‘hurt’ form some ‘tinpot’ state? Or are you now saying we are now vulnerable in the post Brexit economy?
Scotland has every right to seek independence as we did also from the EU, it’s also perfectly valid for the Orkneys and Shetland to hold a referendum to join back into the UK.
An EU backwater in Scotland won’t hurt us, although that will be the intent.
One of the other reasons I’d like them to achieve it is the destruction of this tin pot mob, and the look on their faces when they’re out of government and other parties take over.
Are you really that paranoid? you do sound a bit ridiculous on that score
And they themselves acknowledge that - many in Scotland vote for the SNP to get independence and would then vote for others to regain a balance - its not hidden and the SNP actively promoted this during the referendum so its a red herring
Mate they’ve squander thirteen years in government on this myopic obsession. They’re talking about doing a wildcat referendum while the education system you swerved goes to rack and ruin. They’ve got more money per capita for health and have fucked that up too.
They have two policies. Independence and stay just to the left ot the Tories. How anyone can take their fucking plant pot of a leader seriously is beyond me. Hope all the Salmond shit comes out.
The batshit crazy tartan Tories.
Seriously, you are a bit myopic on this yourself… you need to live here to understand the impact - health care is better than in most NHS trust regions… as recent events have shown me over last 12 months from Mrs MoT Breast cancer to my own diagnostic investigations, despite COVID pressures, so I am not sure where your ‘data’ is coming from
Well it might not be correct to excuse her failings by comparison but when it comes to fuckwits in politics, you only need to look at the current incumbent of number 10… and she looks like a true and respected states person in comparison…
Jimmy Krankie looks statesmanlike when compared to Johnson, its a low bar to set.
They’re a party of opposition in government. If wee Nicky Krankie is the best they’re got, they’re fucked.
An interesting read so far and I’ll let you both carry on, but given that Trump and Johnson were/are the best according to the electoral systems in two respective countries, I don’t think Scotland will necessarily be fucked with Nicola S at the helm.
And whilst I don’t want to see the break up of the Union, I think Scotland deserve another referendum given the huge change in circumstances since the last one. If we are super confident that we can be a raging success with being shackled to the EU, why can’t Scotland be equally successful without being shackled to Westminster?
I agree, I also believe Scottish independence will only come when England want it, there’s an awful lot of Unionists in Scotland who’ll swing back, same with the economic Nationalist in Northern Ireland.
Finances are everything, the only way Scotland could realistically survive is by high tax for the citizen and low business tax rate, does that appeal to the average Scottish punter?
They may say they see themselves as closer to the Scandinavians (snigger) for soundbites and populism but reality means they’ll shit themselves if they have to pay 40% tax.
Also the uncomfortable truth is the Orkneys and Shetland are quite unionist and they don’t trust Holyrood and more than Westminster, infact they trust it less, they know Scotland only wants them for their oil, at least the English are honest to say that.
You can not stand in the way of democracy and its the Scots right to ask for their future, I don’t want them to go and I don’t believe they’d get the mandate to do so, and if they did fuck me if you thought the EU negotiations were difficult then thats nothing to this, nothing at all.
And England will nail them to the mast over sterling, banking and trade.
Nail them totally.
They’ve given themselves a very high bar to clear and one that is not backed up by their performance over the last thirteen years. More powers than anyone in England to protect themselves from Westminster.
More funding per capita.
You just need to look at the areas in which they’ve been given autonomy and ask if they’re doing a better job than England.
They should be. Why aren’t they?
I am not sure if any British government would want or allow the Scots to leave the union. If another referendum said yes to leave the government could ignore the vote which leaves them high and dry. If the vote to leave was particularly high it would put more pressure on the government and might force further devolution measures but any concessions to Scotland raises further issues with Wales and the Zurich situation. What could the Scots do even with a substantial yes vote if Westminster refuses to budge?