:scotchland: The Adventures of the SNP

You’re not here are you?

What the fuck is this?

I have no idea what you are talking about. My account says that I have x amount of pounds and pence in my account. Do you think there is a tin box with my name on it sitting in a safe somewhere with that amount of pounds and pence inside it?

Can someone help him?

PM him please, just help him.

You seem to be hung up on physical money Barry. How often do people use cash these days? The point is that it is easier to give up something if there is no emotional attachment to it. Take the pound and the euro for example. For some people giving up the pound for the euro was unthinkable. It was like trading in the Union Jack for the EU flag. The French and others EU countries didn’t have that problem. Had we been a cashless society back then it would have been far less of a wrench to give up our pounds, five pounds etc because there would be nothing physical to give up. Get the point?

I think you have completely missed the plot.
I’m talking about the issue Scotland may have in giving up sterling for the euro. What are you talking about?

You must be taking the piss?

I am not arsed about cashless, but you’re confusing cashless society and a society without a currency.
If it was cashless it would still be tied to a currency, your £ in the bank is tied to the Bank of England and has all the guarantees that come with it ie interest rates abroad and against other currencies, what currency would Scotland have and what independence would they have in setting interest rates?

This sums this up.

And another thread ruined by the village idiot. I give up

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Meaning me?

Where am I wrong?

This is what the forum is about, people simply don’t like to admit they’re wrong, where I am wrong in saying Scotland can’t have sterling willingly if they go independent and its paved with issues?

Also the cashless bit is funny and idiotic as they come.

Here’s the thing. It’s my understanding that in order to join the Euro, members have to surrender their national banks and treasuries.

Wonder what the Jocko to Euro exchange rate is.

Please read this, stop playing the poster.

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Not remotely the same thing.

You’d be better off asking about the prospects of an independent Lancashire with Liverpool and Manchester thrown in.

That’s a better comparison than the UK leaving the EU.

I am not confusing anything. Where do I say a country without a currency?
Rewind.
It was suggested that, if the Scots left the union and wanted to rejoin the EU, that they may have to give up sterling and join the euro. Got it so far?
This apparently might be a sticking point for them.
My point was and is that a currency is just that, a currency. Why do people get hung up on what it is called?
I can see an issue over what exchange rate will be used to go from one to another, but why worry about what your units are called? It wouldn’t bother me if my units were called Barrys rather than pounds or euros or dollars.
So no country will be without a currency. It is just a question of which currency they use.
Got it yet or do you still insist on going off on weird tangents?

Why did you or MOT say cashless was coming more common and it wouldn’t matter?
Of course it would.

How can they simply give up sterling and join the Euro (only 20% of Scots want that by the way)?

People may get hung up on it you call it as its hugely relevant.
This is medieval England, how can you trade with other nations if you don’t have a currency?
To adopt a currency you have to passed lots of tests, its not an application for a loan on a car.

Read want I posted above.

I haven’t gone off on any weird tangents, its all there above.

FFS. I said that cashless was coming so it wouldn’t matter if it was a pound or a euro or a dollar that you didn’t have in your pocket anymore.
Seriously Barry, it really isn’t that difficult.
Currency is currency. It really is a side issue as to what that currency is called.

You just don’t get it do you, you really don’t get it.

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I will try one last time. I agree that a majority of Scots apparently wouldn’t want to give up sterling. My point is, what does it matter what the units in your bank account are called so long as they pay your bills? Why get emotionally attached to the pound? It is just something that you exchange for something else anyway. If I have a thousand units in my bank they can be pounds, euros, dollars, whatever. The issue is not what they are called. The issue is what are they worth in the marketplace.

As ever you just argue for the sake of it.

Who would print the money?

The Scots are by a ratio of 4/5.