🤔 :noose: Starmer-cide watch

Interesting point. How Reform evolve over the next few years will be a watch.

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Nope, linguistically its teutonic and so EI is always pronounced ‘eye’ with IE always the ‘EE’ - no idea where the anti-semitism comes into it, the name is not unique to Jewish families and is common in Germany… Stein is Stein with or without the EP … you dont drink beer from a 1ltr ‘steen’ :smiling_face::beer:

(am I now and anti-semite?? Anyway Free Palestine!)

Their best bet is to become kingmakers at the next election

They get more MP with experience and a few will become ministers gaining crucial experience of govt

Second 1 in 1 out flight gone without any of the 1 outs aboard

I hope he hasn’t got a whole weeks worth of flights booked otherwise this will become embarrassing

Tbh not one EU Nation implemented EU Laws with the same enthusiasm as UK.
Right back to the days they appointed inspectors to arrest Pub Landlords for keeping Stilton in a glass dome on the bar…

French still just shrug

And this is why Reform will get in, others say fuck off like Poland yet we’ve a micro industry of appeal lawyers tax payers are funding.
How many of illegal entrants into UK find a tax paying job with their families after being granted a right to stay? Are they a continual drain as we’ve enough home grown for that,
This could stop el pronto if
People put asylum seekers in their own houses and paid for it
Asylum hotels were put in the poshest parts of London.

Sounds logical, but that’s partially what sent the Liberals back into oblivion. They shouldered far more than their fair share of the blame when Cameron’s coalition flopped.

The problem in a nutshell

He wants more progressive voices to be heard. The counter argument is that the progressive voices have had too much mike time over the last 25 years and that is why we are where we are.

Again its somewhere in the middle, but unfortunately people have stopped listening to the progressives because in their mind they have fucked it up and people have got tired of been lectured to.

buggers muddle springs to mind

Microsoft are going to invest $30bn in AI research / data centres etc on top of Googles ÂŁ5bn and nVidea investing - thats some good news for Keir

and in industries that have got a future

that also need skilled and, I hate to say it, intelligent people so won’t affect the working man in the sweatshops…

If they could do my job they can have it just pay me off.

Interesting that he refers to far right rhetoric when it’s the traditionally Labour left wing voters in the Midlands and North complaining most bitterly. It’s also notable that the loudest “progressive” voices emanate from the Westminster bubble and the Home Counties, where they really aren’t directly affected by immigration issues at all.

Disagree, he just wants people to have some principles and voice them, as opposed to running scared and trying to gain favour with those who have swung towards the right on one single issue … Farage has always been a one trick pony, latching on to whatever he feels will ‘will fascinate the fools’ before then ‘muzzling the intelligent’ to paraphrase Bertrand Russell - fools in this case means those unwilling or unable to look behind the superficial and try to understand the real cause of the challenges they face as its much easier to blame migrants, and ‘intelligent’ are those who do question who are then ridiculed or tarred with some BS brush about how its all the out of touch middle class elite who oppose them… (the political elite are a tiny fraction and equally cuntish on BOTH sides including REFORM) - what was that story about the devil? ‘his greatest trick was convincing people he did not exist’

Many posts on here do this. How often have folks on here criticised the ‘mainstream media’ undermining their checks and balances - sure there is bias, but who checks and validates the horrendous BS and nonsense in the ‘non-mainstream’?

I am not some paranoid conspiracy theorist, but the fact that the social media is owned by right wing billionaires seeking to exert influence on governments and elections and yet huge swathes of voters believe the shit they read on those platforms destroys democracy… that is what Russell meant by fools…

Making everything about single issue and spreading BS about it without having a workable and sustainable solution that is supported by our international and moral obligations does not make you the saviour, just a fucking snakeoil salesman…

Starmer in his cowardice, unwilling to present a principled approach is thus equally to blame as this country shamefully lurches ever further to the right - who is next for mass deportation once the asylum seekers are gone? The Muslim communities?

Those 100000 in London were not campaigning for kids safety… Robinson is a Nazi cunt and that is what they were lapping up… Just because the BBC like to hide behind more moderate language does not make it untrue…

Starmer will be shown in history like fucking Chamberlin as the one who let this happen by offering no alternative on his watch…. unprincipled coward

And then you have us

The normal people that dont agree with the government.

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Woo!
I’m your actual on the spot reporter from deep within Epping Borough Council land.

So it seems that Debden is the flag centre of England (the tube station i arrived at broken last night (a young lady gave me her seat on the Tube) :sob:

The Hotel in Epping is next to a special needs school not good that they all hang around or walk into it.
Just behind Epping High Street is the main school, connected by an alleyway.
The hotel guests have nowhere to go so hang in the alley, at certain times of the day.
The school uniform for girls features slightly short skirts.
So the first grievance was the keering and the comments. All recoded but taken down by Social Media as being “offensive”

Anyway. Today about an hour ago.
One just got arrested for breaking into the school by climbing a fence

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Careful, you don’t want to be complaining too much otherwise you will be labelled a far right racist

Seriously - that little bastard trying to climb into the school should be on the first flight out - abuse our hospitality / break our laws and off you fuck

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This was something I hadn’t realised about the one in one out deal - its not one boat person in one boat person out

Its one boat person out and France gets to fly in one asylum seeker - the is some ready to fly in on Saturday and they are still coming according to the French

"France has been planning to fly asylum seekers to the UK this Saturday as part of the agreement.

A French interior ministry spokesperson said: “The first migrants are still due to arrive in France from the UK this week and the first to leave France will do so starting Saturday.”

Can i change my selection in the poll?

I appreciate its only a councillor but Reform are now picking up people from both sides of the spectrum