Southampton vs Hull Match Thread - 29/4/17 K.O. 15:00

Puel says we were poor

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Think the players need to take majority of blame today, too many individual errors and a severe lack of fight, I don’t give a fuck if it’s a nothing game with nothing to play for 30.000 people paid to see that shit today (beer hasn’t kicked in yet, give it a couple more bottles of hobgoblin and I’ll have chilled out a bit). Puel doesn’t get away scott free though, his experiment of playing Boufal and Tadic in the same team is not paying off in my opinion.

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We aren’t a poor side, far from it, we may not be as strong as we were but we are better than we have been in all other years in the premiership bar the last 3 seasons.

Tactically, excitement and performance, it all comes down to the manager who is so out of his depth, he is poor and not fit for purpose.

A cheap yes man.

Amonst other things Puel picked Tadic to take penalties. That decision lost us the 3 pionts

It took Charlie a physical confrontation to change that on the pitch.

Thinking about it Charlie Austin must be as good as Van Bastton now he has been out so long

I’d have loved a full 0 - 0.

A turgid pile of dog shit 0-0 was not what I wanted.

Wtf was he thinking filling the team with “flair” players when we all knew we were playing a team fighting for their lives.

JWP Hojberg & even Classie would have given us some chance of control in midfield.

First doubts about Puel now.

Or was it the fault of those happy clappers they gave out b4 the game?

Back from the game. I’m afraid I’m now officially in the Puel out camp.

I don’t have any vitriolic hatred towards the man, I don’t even dislike him in the slightest, but I’m sorry, this isn’t working out.

Looking back towards the start of the season and comparing it to now, just nothing has improved. We’re still liable to look toothless in home games against very average teams. Our attacking midfielders and wingers still struggle to really string a move together or knock together a half-decent one-two to get to the byeline. We still get comfortably beaten by the big boys without so much as inconveniencing them. Players like Boufal and Hojbjerg still haven’t made any progress in terms of being integrated into the team. We still haven’t seen the development of a coherent strategy like Pochettino’s high-pressing game. Its just… exactly the same uninspiring muddle as it was back when he had the reasonable excuse of only being in the job a few months.

I can live with finishing bottom half, losing cup finals, having disappointing days and so on.

Hey, I can even live with grinding out results with boring football if that really is the limit of the team’s capability (as it is with Hull’s - who’ve every right to go home dead proud of themselves after today), but c’mon. This?

What’s getting better? Where are we improving? What’s to be excited about for next season?

I simply couldn’t answer these questions if you paid me.

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Ha, I genuinely don’t mean to sound snide but if we had gone with a physical side with the same result the criticism then simply flips to “Why did we play them at their own game!?”

I thought the team selection was fine pre-match so I’ll hold my hand up on that one. You’d have thought that Ranocchia and Maguire would be more adept at dealing with crude target-men than they would be against skillful, flicksy-tricksy wingers, which is what Redmond, Tadic and Boufal are/were at least supposed to be today.

I didn’t mean to match them up…we don’t have that kind of player but we do have a lot of players who are easily knocked off the ball…particularly mid-field players. The balance has to be right and playing Tadic and Boufal together was an experiment that didn’t work.

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Good to see the lads on here coming round to mystic all powerful Bazza’s football knowledge, he is out of his depth, the long and the short of it is the team is underperforming with him in charge.

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You didn’t ‘know’ anything though Barry. You disliked him from the word go at a visceral, personal level.

Your opposition to him wasn’t based on evidence or sound judgement. It was based on pure emotion. It wasn’t knowledge, just guesswork and hoping.

Its more justifiable to call for the manager’s head if you’ve genuinely given him a chance than if you never liked him to begin with.

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen pap this drunk :lou_lol:

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Pictures Goat, pictures…

Haha unbelievable. THAT shit yet were first on MOTD!

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I could tell after a few games how this would transpire, why you say? How do you have such knowledge? I don’t just common sense, his sides, tactics and substitutions lead me even after a short time to annonce he was out of his league, that hasn’t been proved wrong.

Its easy to say a manager is crap and will get fired, but not so by the way and the method of said demise, we’re underperforming with him and have all season.
Europa = Failure
League Cup - Success
League = Failure
FA Cup = Failure

Man of the match?

Mike Dean for blowing the full time whistle and putting a bolt gun through the face of that poor injured excuse for a game.

The suffering is over at last, may it rest in peace and never be discussed again.

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first on MOTD?! Fuck me. This will get the old “is the licence fee worth it?” debate going again.

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Right. So you admit that you made your judgement about Puel in a ‘few games’.

Can you really not name a single manager who has looked poor or disappointing in their first ‘few’ games?and gone on to be a success?

I’m struggling to disagree with any of that to be honest.

I said to my old man on the drive home “next season will be interesting because with no Europe there’ll be no excuses and nowhere to hide”. Proof will be in the pudding.

Earlier in the season he had a lot of support as he was new and the fixture congestion was undeniably tough. I defended him too when the football was slow and pedestrian. I’d convinced myself that this must have been deliberate due to a desire to conserve energy, avoid incurring injuries and to keep players fresh.

But then the games eased up and with the exception of a short burst of improved form when we reverted to 4-2-3-1 which sparked us back in to life, as did Gabbiadini’s arrival, the style of play is still too slow.

We play a very gentlemanly game. It’s almost as if we deliberately wait for the opposition to get back behind the ball before we are prepared to attack. For fear of offending them or some shit.

I am finding him lacking tactically and today I couldn’t begin to comprehend his substitutions. We must have been watching a different game to him. Redmond was as bad as I’ve seen him and at least Boufal looked purposeful for a change. Don’t get me wrong, he was still shite but I would have removed Redmond first. Even his simple passes were wayward. Tadic was not worth taking about.

I am more than happy to be proven wrong on this next point but I cannot recall an instance where he has made a system switch during the course of a game to turn things around and effect the outcome. That’s why I say he is too rigid. Too Wenger-esque.

Will I be won over in time or is this simply how it is going to be?

As you rightly say, I don’t think we are seeing any signs of improvement.

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Lols. . On way to south Western. Alone. Now where did I put that bleach?

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Of course but it was the tactics and refusal to change not the results that swayed me, he is stubborn and refuses to change, this will be his downfall, he won’t change for the English game.