I think you’ve misunderstood. Its you that has to pay him 50p for the handjobs. You don’t turn up in a milk float and pap gets his head turned and starts throwing 50p at you to wank him off.
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So, Goat pays Pap 50p to wank him off.
Who exactly is the wanker and who is the wankee?
Hold up, i thought the pervert in the milk float paid the little person. You’re going to make the little people pay you?
Kinky and financially astute, you’d do well in the tory party(private ed, i assume). If you do animals as well there’s nothing stopping you going all the way to the top. Don’t worry if your conscience is bothering you(understandable, you’re a pervert not a nazis), I can arrange for your spine to be removed(i’d show you a recommendation, but he’s put it off again. still in denial about what he truly is(again understandable)).
ffs fatso it is easy to follow. “milkman” got milked as promised. Mrs. Pap got accused of owing £7 for dairy and she was furious. How dare you say I owe you 50p, remember the poison dwarf did 14 hand jobs at 50p per pop ffs??? Mr. Milkman thought "ffs these tay lors aren’t as dumb as my dad promised. We have been doing this for years but I might have to give this whole thing up. I;ll invite those two girls round for a bath. If that doesn’t work. I am heading back to TV and supporting Pompey.
Bugger that. I’m not driving all that way AND paying him.
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Not again.
So what you do if you have something offensive to say is you put the offensive bit in the translator…
“Stolts dis pit caxald caxallyick cemmio”
You make your point and the rest of the forum members can’t be bothered to translate the offensive bit to get arsey about it.
Job done.
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so, who we bumming now then?
You always ask that when you know it’s your turn. Anyway it’s wanking not bumming and you have to pay everyone 50p. Put your glasses back on, you’ll only moan if it gets in your eye.
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Agreed.
Reading through the thread, more-or-less every argument in favour of sending your children to private schools is essentially a variant of:
“Ah, well, yes, I’d love to have a state school system that teaches everyone brilliantly and where my kids are able to flourish and where they’re all taught in classes of 10 students max and where special needs kids are seperated but well looked after and they all get their choice of after school clubs and blablabla…buuuuut the state school system in the UK just ain’t up to that standard, so it is with huge, almighty reluctance that I have no choice whatsoever but to send my kids private”.
Interestingly enough, no post on this thread has really managed to defeat the point I made earlier; that this is basically the same thing as economy class vs first in a plane. A multi-millionaire champagne socialist could easily make the same arguments. He’d point out the rigid obedience that airlines demand of their passengers, the fact that you can be kicked off the plane if flying economy, the fact that you’re crammed in like sardines and that this is unhealthy and so on.
And ultimately, he’d make the same argument - that whilst he’d love everyone in economy to have their own TV/ps2/bed/shower and surround sound system, the economy section of a plane just doesn’t reach that minimum standard - so its with great reluctance that he just has to choose to fly in first.
Course, you could just admit you’re a conservative and that you value free choice above equality - which is fair enough. That’s what I do. But as I’ve said - for more-or-less everyone on the thread its basically just a circlejerk of people acting in their own self-interest (fine), but then rationalising it to themselves as somehow being something else because they want to cling onto a good old bit of self-delusional moral superiority.
D’ahwel. Always fun to have your preconceptions totally confirmed.
Cheerio lads.
(Pap, you stick to your guns you old lefty nutjob - you’re a good bloke)
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Agreed.
Reading through the thread, more-or-less every argument in favour of sending your children to private schools is essentially a variant of:
“Ah, well, yes, I’d love to have a state school system that teaches everyone brilliantly and where my kids are able to flourish and where they’re all taught in classes of 10 students max and where special needs kids are seperated but well looked after and they all get their choice of after school clubs and blablabla…buuuuut the state school system in the UK just ain’t up to that standard, so it is with huge, almighty reluctance that I have no choice whatsoever but to send my kids private”.
Interestingly enough, no post on this thread has really managed to defeat the point I made earlier; that this is basically the same thing as economy class vs first in a plane. A multi-millionaire champagne socialist could easily make the same arguments. He’d point out the rigid obedience that airlines demand of their passengers, the fact that you can be kicked off the plane if flying economy, the fact that you’re crammed in like sardines and that this is unhealthy and so on.
And ultimately, he’d make the same argument - that whilst he’d love everyone in economy to have their own TV/ps2/bed/shower and surround sound system, the economy section of a plane just doesn’t reach that minimum standard - so its with great reluctance that he just has to choose to fly in first.
Course, you could just admit you’re a conservative and that you value free choice above equality - which is fair enough. That’s what I do. But as I’ve said - for more-or-less everyone on the thread its basically just a circlejerk of people acting in their own self-interest (fine), but then rationalising it to themselves as somehow being something else because they want to cling onto a good old bit of self-delusional moral superiority.
D’ahwel. Always fun to have your preconceptions totally confirmed.
Cheerio lads.
(Pap, you stick to your guns you old lefty nutjob - you’re a good bloke)
Oh dear… First upTramps for spomeone who always seems so desperate to be popular/accepted, I suggest you think about the arrogance displayed in your positing style. It is probably just the naivity of youth, but you do yourself no favours with that arrogant certainty that you are right…
Lets address your cocksure chuckle to yourself, the ‘haha, just do what I do and admit you’re a conservative’ - there is so much wrong with this I am not sure where to start, but in the interests of keeping it brief… Why do you feel the need to conveniently label everyone based on a single choice? No one on here (as far as I can tell) is an MP, under the Whip to follow any particular party line on every part of policy or doctrine, to often go against their own prsonal beliefs and choices to ensure stabilty within the Party. This is not some playground Duma, but real life where folks are free to make whatever choices they like both personnally and politically. In fact, try and find anyone who believes 100% in everything a particular political polcy stands for - I would even suggest most maybe believe in around 70% or so max. In fact, I would go so far as to argue that anyone who ‘fantically’ believes in 100% of any human created dogma/doctrine is either, bullshitting to make a point, or a nutjob… Religion is a great analogy here… most sensible folk recognise there is stuff in the bible that has no place in modern society … and we tend to (rightly IMHO,) believe those that do to be idiots - whether Christian White Supremesists, the homophobes or any number of extremists who use written doctrine to justufy their choices… Ironically, you and Pap are coming across more like the old fart religious RIGHT who suggests that just because of the times, ‘‘You cant call yourself a Christian, and then just pick and chose which part of the bible you want to believe in’’… Life does not require me or anyone else to fall into your artificially created little compartments just for you to try and score a niave and cheap point… its never that black or white nor should it be… I am at perfect liberty to consider myself Left on the spectrum even if I chose only to believe in 90% or so of what someone back in time has suggested is the correct definition…
Your short shrift definition of the argument is again rather selective as it is naive - but given you obviously failed to grasp any of the finer points the first time round, I am not going to repeat thme here. But lets just say your flipancy with which you dismiss suggestions that the state system should be better, that folkd want kids to flourish in smaller class sizes with better acces sto avctivitis etc is a bit pathetic… as I am sure 100% of parents would say this is a fair ideal … and as far as I can recall the only person who has suggested any separtion, whether of kids form different backgrounds or with learning difficulties or speacial needsis Pap in his misinterpretation…
Then lets come your selfpromoted brilliant anaogy of the first class/business travel v economy class - which you consider is so cast iron no one can defeat it… well no jhas tried because its not worth it - its a waste of time. You see teh problem with analogy is that 99% of the same analogy can be used against your own argument… I daresay I am not the only one read it and then smiled at its naiviety, but as you have brought it up again lets use your analogy to explore the dilemma a little further.
Ultimately, everyone is looking to get from A to B. Spo lets look at the passengers on a particular flight. Now we dont know the reason or purpose of everyones travel nor the reason for them selecting a particular class of travel, nor do we know their background, personalities, political opinions etc… all we know is that thsoe at thr front paid maybe 10 times more for their seat… We dont even know who paid for it.
First up the debate started not about the choice, but about improving the quality of travel for those in economy, a better meal say. Everyone is in agreement that the meals currently being served in economy are shit, (but every now and again there are airlines or on particular routes taht are actually really good - but sadly they might not fly to whare you are heading)… and that all travellers would arrive at their destination in much better shape and ready for whatever next steps if not still hungry after 8 hours of flying… everyone agrees this is a good idea. The problem is one or two that only travel economy want those in Businees class to pay for their better meals, assuming all MUST be able can afford it… Thos in business class have argued a number of things, that a) not all can afford paying more, some are there because they saved really hard for a once in a lifetime trip, otehrs have their fairs paid for by their companies, but some have also argued that they are already paying towards economy because they pay 5 or 6 times the airport tax in their ticket price which is already very high and contributes most to airline profits so its the airlines who should use the profits to provide the better meals… but the airlines dont seem interested in improving the standrds in economy saying they dont have the money… and anywayit woudl mean everyone paying more for their ticket, which many in economy dont want either.
However, teh debate thnemoved sideways because there are some who believe there should be only one class of travel as everyone is equal. Again this is a great idea, in fact many in business clas would like to pay less. However, on the route tehy travel frequently, the only airline available, does not even serve meals, has many missing and bvroiken seats, overbooks, but instead of limiting numbers crams as many in as possible and then only provides 1 flight attendent to look after them all. Everyone agrees this is shit and for some they have no choice, but others do, so they save and save or do without so that they can at least not run teh risk of no seat.
Now despite the shit in economy class there are plenty in there who put up with it, get as prepared as they can (bring pillow and their own food) so that they get through it in one piece and arrive at the destination in very good shape and having saved a ton of money. This is applauded as they have used their brains and parents gave them the pillow and all are rightly impressed. But these are the exception, as there were also those who had pillows, and own food, that were unlucky to get not even a space, had to stand all the way, their food got squashed and their sleep was disruped because the flight attendent could not help those sat in the next seat who had spilled their drinks and just needed some help to clean up… like I said only 1 attendent and no time, not the fault of the passenger nor the flight attendent or pilot, but fault of the airline.
Finally then we come to the reasons why some chose business class…perhaps causing the most controversy. You see some that beleive in only one class of travel and believe that no one should travel business class, in fact the airlines should get rid of this completey. You see they believe that if all those that normally travel business went economy, they would demand better service and this would happen… all agree this woudl be great. But you see many who traveling business class dont believe it would crete a better travel experience for all, because they know there is not a cat in hells chance of the passengers being prepared to pay more for their ticket, and even if thy did teh irline would probably keep it as profit and not reinvest appropriatey in the infrastructure and flight experience.
The problem lies in that there is NOT a single reason for chosing business class, despiet some naive economy pasengers believing there is. Yes there are some who just have mney and are snobbish and dont want to be sat in a cabin with all the stink students, screaming kids and no leg room and shitty meals. But in reality (from my experience) these types are in the minority.
Then there are those who believe that because of the bigger beds, better food and greater comfort, they stand a better chance of not being too fucked after the journey and ready to do what they want to do without too much jet lag- some argue this is bollocks, because you can be just as ready travelling economy if you prepare yourself - but that is countered above. However, there is a recognition by most that the business seat offer no guarantees of better travel because some stay up watching all the films or drinking at the free bar, instead of making the most of the flat bed and getting some decent sleep… in fact everyone agrees that these toosers who only travel business because they can and then waste the main advantage of the bed and space are fuckwits. However, some in economy think everyone upfront behind the curtain is like this.
… getting a bit long now… but you started it…
Anyway, I will finish by saying most at the front of the plain travelk in business class where the standrads also vary betwen routes and airlines, even when flying here, on some you only get a bit better food and and can change your flight time free of charge… but I am sure there is one thing we can all agree on - its the cunts in First (Public Schools, Eton, Harrow, Charterhouse…) who are the real evil 
Pap - you stick to your guns and travel economy.
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“Tramps for spomeone who always seems so desperate to be popular/accepted,”
Hahaha - stopped reading after that first setence just to insta-respond.
Yes, as a card-carrying libertarian on *this* forum of all places, whilst taking the side of the one guy getting battered in the dialogue I’m clearly desperate to be accepted. You’ve got me bang to rights.
“Lets address your cocksure chuckle to yourself, the ‘haha, just do what I do and admit you’re a conservative’ - there is so much wrong with this I am not sure where to start, but in the interests of keeping it brief… Why do you feel the need to conveniently label everyone based on a single choice? No one on here (as far as I can tell) is an MP, under the Whip to follow any particular party line on every part of policy or doctrine, to often go against their own prsonal beliefs and choices to ensure stabilty within the Party. This is not some playground Duma, but real life where folks are free to make whatever choices they like both personnally and politically. In fact, try and find anyone who believes 100% in everything a particular political polcy stands for - I would even suggest most maybe believe in around 70% or so max. In fact, I would go so far as to argue that anyone who ‘fantically’ believes in 100% of any human created dogma/doctrine is either, bullshitting to make a point, or a nutjob…”
Fair. Don’t disagree. (I’m responding as I go fwiw)
‘‘You cant call yourself a Christian, and then just pick and chose which part of the bible you want to believe in’’… Life does not require me or anyone else to fall into your artificially created little compartments just for you to try and score a niave and cheap point…"
Ah, no.
You’re factually wrong here. If I claim that I’m a ‘flat Earther’ and you then prove that I in fact believe the Earth is round, you aren’t forcing me into an ‘artificially created little compartment’, you’ve just quite simply busted me on my (basically) lying to you about what I believe. There’s no intent to force people into ‘compartments to score points’.
“Then lets come your selfpromoted brilliant anaogy of the first class/business travel v economy class - which you consider is so cast iron no one can defeat it… well no jhas tried because its not worth it - its a waste of time.”
You’re not bossing your company or family around here bud, you’re in the public domain, plebs like me get to argue against you in the marketplace of ideas. And guess what? That means you do actually have to make an actual argument.
“I daresay I am not the only one read it and then smiled at its naiviety, but as you have brought it up again lets use your analogy to explore the dilemma a little further.”
C’mon, you really expect people to believe that? You’ve posted a long, emotive reply (rather hastily if your typing errors are anything to go by) and you expect anyone to believe that you’re smiling? Just be honest; you’re seething with anger. And hey? Maybe its righteous anger? Maybe you’re in the right? But its a little insulting to the patrons of Sotonians that you honestly think they’ll actually believe you on this one.
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"First up the debate started not about the choice, but about improving the quality of travel for those in economy, a better meal say. Everyone is in agreement that the meals currently being served in economy are shit, (but every now and again there are airlines or on particular routes taht are actually really good - but sadly they might not fly to whare you are heading)… and that all travellers would arrive at their destination in much better shape and ready for whatever next steps if not still hungry after 8 hours of flying… everyone agrees this is a good idea. The problem is one or two that only travel economy want those in Businees class to pay for their better meals, assuming all MUST be able can afford it… Thos in business class have argued a number of things, that a) not all can afford paying more, some are there because they saved really hard for a once in a lifetime trip, otehrs have their fairs paid for by their companies, but some have also argued that they are already paying towards economy because they pay 5 or 6 times the airport tax in their ticket price which is already very high and contributes most to airline profits so its the airlines who should use the profits to provide the better meals… but the airlines dont seem interested in improving the standrds in economy saying they dont have the money… and anywayit woudl mean everyone paying more for their ticket, which many in economy dont want either.
However, teh debate thnemoved sideways because there are some who believe there should be only one class of travel as everyone is equal. Again this is a great idea, in fact many in business clas would like to pay less. However, on the route tehy travel frequently, the only airline available, does not even serve meals, has many missing and bvroiken seats, overbooks, but instead of limiting numbers crams as many in as possible and then only provides 1 flight attendent to look after them all. Everyone agrees this is shit and for some they have no choice, but others do, so they save and save or do without so that they can at least not run teh risk of no seat.
Now despite the shit in economy class there are plenty in there who put up with it, get as prepared as they can (bring pillow and their own food) so that they get through it in one piece and arrive at the destination in very good shape and having saved a ton of money. This is applauded as they have used their brains and parents gave them the pillow and all are rightly impressed. But these are the exception, as there were also those who had pillows, and own food, that were unlucky to get not even a space, had to stand all the way, their food got squashed and their sleep was disruped because the flight attendent could not help those sat in the next seat who had spilled their drinks and just needed some help to clean up… like I said only 1 attendent and no time, not the fault of the passenger nor the flight attendent or pilot, but fault of the airline.
Finally then we come to the reasons why some chose business class…perhaps causing the most controversy. You see some that beleive in only one class of travel and believe that no one should travel business class, in fact the airlines should get rid of this completey. You see they believe that if all those that normally travel business went economy, they would demand better service and this would happen… all agree this woudl be great. But you see many who traveling business class dont believe it would crete a better travel experience for all, because they know there is not a cat in hells chance of the passengers being prepared to pay more for their ticket, and even if thy did teh irline would probably keep it as profit and not reinvest appropriatey in the infrastructure and flight experience.
_The problem lies in that there is NOT a single reason for chosing business class, despiet some naive economy pasengers believing there is. Yes there are some who just have mney and are snobbish and dont want to be sat in a cabin with all the stink students, screaming kids and no leg room and shitty meals. But in reality (from my experience) these types are in the minority. _
Then there are those who believe that because of the bigger beds, better food and greater comfort, they stand a better chance of not being too fucked after the journey and ready to do what they want to do without too much jet lag- some argue this is bollocks, because you can be just as ready travelling economy if you prepare yourself - but that is countered above. However, there is a recognition by most that the business seat offer no guarantees of better travel because some stay up watching all the films or drinking at the free bar, instead of making the most of the flat bed and getting some decent sleep… in fact everyone agrees that these toosers who only travel business because they can and then waste the main advantage of the bed and space are fuckwits. However, some in economy think everyone upfront behind the curtain is like this.
… getting a bit long now… but you started it…
Anyway, I will finish by saying most at the front of the plain travelk in business class where the standrads also vary betwen routes and airlines, even when flying here, on some you only get a bit better food and and can change your flight time free of charge… but I am sure there is one thing we can all agree on - its the cunts in First (Public Schools, Eton, Harrow, Charterhouse…) who are the real evil
Pap - you stick to your guns and travel economy."
Heavens above Dad… look, finish your pint and I’ll drive round and pick you up.
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I amtalking about your ‘form’… Pap needs no defenders - he has given as good ashe has gotten…
Really?.. 
Alright alright alright.
Sorry.
Back from the pub and about to go to bed.
Promise I’ll read it and give it a 100% well-thought out reply tomorrow. Gonna try and beat ya (obv) but will argue in good faith. Peace.
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