Yep, obvious next step is a vid of death no? people falling over in comedy fashion is one thing, laughing at folks being hit by cars? At what point is it no longer acceptable, when it causes a death? Some times folks on here need to speak out more about stuff that is not really acceptable⌠if we dont just lose more posters⌠maybe no one else cares?
Haha, seriously? This is one of the very few places where posters seem desperate to defend shite like this for fear of being ridiculed or bullied by a few âseniorâ posters⌠Some things are just wrong and not to point it out for what it is is just cowardly. Just like the shit on the woke thread which has become a place for folks to express fake exasperation at anything that highlights their old school prejudicesâŚ
I enjoy a good laugh and being half German actually understand the true meaning of schardenfreude (and its a lot more nuanced than its use here) but I donât believe its being sanctimonious to point out stuff that is just wrong to laugh at. Maybe we all have different thresholds as to what we find acceptable, but I ainât changing mine just to avoid a few accusations of being sanctimonious
Not ridiculous at all, Iâd say. Weâve just had presented to us for entertainment a video in which someone is clearly quite badly hurt. So how about if someone is hit by a car, taken away in an ambulance, and we have no idea whether they then live or die? Would that be entertaining?
Incidentally, the thread is badly named. Schadenfreude is loosely translated as taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others, with the understanding that itâs someone who you think deserves said misfortune. Watching people get hit by cars doesnât cut it at all - itâs just unpleasant and ghoulish voyeurism.
I wasnât disagreeing with you, but perhaps you missed that. No need to go off on one and come across as holier than thou. And whatâs all this bull-crap about âseniorâ posters? Jeez
I didnât suggest that you had done. What I did say was that what weâre seeing here is human pain being presented as entertainment - after all, if itâs not intended to entertain, what is the point of that clip in the first place? I then asked whether something more serious (where, for instance, the viewer doesnât know the outcome and itâs possible that the victim is seriously injured or even killed) would also be viewed as entertainment.
Had I meant to suggest that you personally might find such things entertaining then Iâd have framed my question in a way to make that clear. So, instead of âWould that be entertaining?â I might have put âWould you find that entertaining?â.
Whether or not you find such videos entertaining I donât know. My point is that they are presented as entertainment, and I personally find that pretty abhorrent.
I am not quite sure how the fact you were not disagreeing me was meant to come across in a post that suggested I had no sense of humour and was being sanctimonious? But hey, something maybe lost in translation.
Fowllyd has summed up my feeling on this much more eloquently than I could, so I wont go over that. However, the problem with simply âavoidingâ the threads that can offend, and saying nothing, might imply I am comfortable with such things and happy to be associated with a web forum that sees no problem with it⌠I have stopped posting in past not because of spats with posters, but because the impression given has been that the forum is fine with certain attitudes and beliefs that go against my own codes. Whether you think I am over sensitive or maybe over âwokeâ is immaterial. I simply stand by what I believe and am comfortable posting on it.
The fact that in the past its been like a 12 line whip of posters jumping in to try and ridicule folks thoughts is what I meant by âsenior-postersâ just go back and read through the woke post again to see what I mean. That thread is an embarrassment.
No itâs not. Itâs simply taking pleasure in the misfortune of others, it isnât qualified by whether or not theyâre perceived to have deserved their misfortune, although that might make a situation funnier.
As usual, it boils down to different people finding different things funny. âFunnyâ isnât really quantifiable, except in certain circumstances when itâs judged by the number of viewers voting on it; itâs impossible to explain why a given joke is funny to someone who doesnât understand why others find it funny, and Iâve pointed out before on the joke thread that a particular joke which was innocuous to me but another poster stated flatly that it wasnât funny, scored as funniest of the week when voted for by people enjoying that kind of humour. So on one level, thatâs quantifiable. In the case of this clip, it came from a comedy feed with hundreds of similar videos and scored particularly highly, so it isnât inherently unamusing. Personally, of course I sympathise with the girl who got knocked off her bike, and obviously I would hope she wasnât badly injured. What makes the clip funny is the sheer misfortune of her subsequently somehow landing headfirst in a narrow drain and disappearing from sight. Show me someone whoâs never in their lives laughed at a comedy pratfall and Iâll show you someone with no sense of humour at all.
Er no, the German definition translates most closely to:
ââSchadenfreude is the positive feeling about another personâs misfortune, either because you dislike them, because you believe they deserve it, or because you see them as a rival. For example, **after a waiter has treated you very rudely, you may secretly enjoy seeing him trip and drop his serving trayââ.
Yes folks find different things funny (no shit sherlock), but that is not the issue here. Its a simple question of whether is appropriate to a laugh at what looks like quite a horrific accident. I am sure there are some folks who laughed at a documentary I saw on net flix that showed explicit footage of a Nazi soldiers executing civilians where the victim fell into the mass grave before being shot⌠the fact someone might find that funny does not âqualifyâ that as appropriate no matter how âmanyâ do.