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It makes me sad innocent people will die at the hands of a tyrant, if you don’t see Putin as bad I am lost for words.

Let’s fucking hope so. You haven’t shut up since you got back.

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On something I feel passionate about, death of innocents, I suppose you view Palestine as a different situation? I’d never thought I’d see Corbynistas and UKIP be united, same coin different sides I suppose.

We can be safe in the knowledge that no ships will crash in the Mersey tonight. The big virtue signal has gone up in Cressington. I can see it from my house. Not entirely convincing but there you go.

Not up for you to be convinced, I’m merely not excusing, can you bring it upon yourself Putin is at fault without saying but? Go on? Be on the right side of history.

Good analysis.

In simpler terms, poke bear with a stick.

Thirty years later - “ooh that bear’s a cunt now”.

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It’s only your historical lack of compassion which is making me question your declared compassion x

What has Ukraine wanting to seek more openness and moving towards a full democracy got to do with Putin?

Your muddying the waters.

If a nation wants to choose its path so it should, you sound like an anti democrat, don’t you support Ukraine in wanting to remain sovereign? Do you support Putin’s invasion?

Go on you can answer without a but but, that is what politicians do Pap.

Where have I ever not shown compassion? Where have I ever been pro war? Ever?

If that path involves letting the US involve a load more nukes on the Russian border you can see why Putin might be pissed off.

Blowback. It’s a concept readily understood by those who weren’t born yesterday.

Why are you so concerned by that? Are you the moral conscience of Russia? Where are these weapons going to go?

You do know (or I hope you do?) ballistic missiles from Subs are far far more effective as a deterrent and threat?
Missiles and concern is a false flag for the uneducated, missiles are always on borders, Russia isn’t bothered about them, do they have missiles on their borders pointing at us?

It’s not just the nukes. It’s the permanent presence of NATO forces alongside depleted Russian borders.

If you cannot see why a country that has been legitimately invaded in the past century, with part of the plan being the deliberate death of thirty million citizens, might be concerned with NATO’s eastward shift then there’s no helping you, “Man of history” Nobby.

They’re depleted as they’re all in Ukraine at the moment busy invading.
Do you genuinely think Putin is bothered by NATO? He is playing on that, also that Ukrainians are Nazis (has he looked in the mirror lately?)
Do you honestly think NATO would invade Russia? Are you serious?
To finish why can’t Ukraine join the EU or NATO if it so wishes, should Poland and Estonia leave those organisations as Putin objects?
Putin if you know your history (I’m not too sure you do) is far more concerned about the cold war than World War II, this is what drives him.
What you’re effectively saying is if someone is concerned (whether true or otherwise) they can invade a sovereign nation to ease those concerns whether valid or not?

Sounds a bit fascist to me Pap.

And you are so blinkered and so totally wrong.

The West are to blame AND Putin is not a good guy.

Stop being so black & white. You are no better than Boris spouting Bubbles while lying on the floor flapping.

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Or those who read about the US reaction to missiles on their doorstep

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It begins

Cyber war inbound

The website of Pap

Knew it - shonky arsed stuff

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“ The website of PAP “ ?

Have the tensions between him and Barry over-spilled into cyber attacks???

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Back when the US genuinely thought it could win a nuclear conflagration. Bless.

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A diplomat writes


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