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MARTIN SAMUEL 5 POINTS: Watford’s disconnect and Saints’ struggles
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I find it remarkable that Jose Mourinho can see Britain’s second city from his Manchester penthouse window. You know, considering Birmingham is the second city, and has been for a long time. Must be one hell of a penthouse if it stretches from Manchester to Birmingham. AyJay, Birmingham.
Here’s a story. When Newcastle were one of the top teams in England, I often stayed at the Copthorne Hotel on the quay. If you’re new in town, you ask the locals for advice. ‘I’m going to the match tonight. I need to be there a good hour or so before kick off. How long’s it going to take?’ The concierge would pull a troubled face. ‘Going to be very busy tonight,’ he’d say. ‘If you want to be there at 6.30, I’d give it a good half hour.’ So, wanting to leave plenty of time, I’d book the cab for six. And at 6.03 we’d pull up outside St James’ Park. You see, AJ, everyone thinks they live in the second city. Everyone thinks they have the worst traffic, that their home town is huge and cosmopolitan and sprawling. And I don’t wish to be rude, but I’m from London. I once left three hours to get from Wapping to Wembley – 11.7 miles across town – and had to abandon the car and run to make kick-off. You’re talking second city rivalry to a man from a capital. The central zone on London transport stretches from Earls Court in the west to Hoxton in the east, and that’s 6.4 miles. Walk that distance north from Manchester and you’re in Bury; south and you’re in Stockport. And this is London, zone 1. So you can see how a piddling contest between Manchester and Birmingham doesn’t really capture my imagination. I like both cities, really I do. I used to live in Manchester, so maybe I’m biased. But it’s a subjective argument at best. Birmingham is a bigger city than Manchester, yes; but so is Bradford. But Greater Manchester is a bigger urban area than the West Midlands, even including Wolverhampton and Walsall. David Cameron called Birmingham the second city in 2015, but 2002, 2007 and 2015 polls conducted by IPSOS Mori, GfK and YouGov all found that the majority of the United Kingdom considered Manchester second to London. I would argue that culturally and for prominence in British life – from sport to art and music – Manchester has the edge, too. So, as the title is in the eye of the beholder, I stand by my description of Manchester as the second city. Although I do think Birmingham gets a rough deal over the music. Plenty of fine bands from Birmingham, and sadly undervalued. We’ll address that in some small way here, and then get on with five points.
Point one: on Watford and Walter Mazzarri
Martin, you’ve got this one very wrong regarding Mazzarri. The players didn’t get him sacked, he managed to do that himself. His first mistake was to ditch Quique Sanchez Flores’ backroom staff, including medical, and replace them with his own. Our injury list was sky high because of his training regime. He wouldn’t connect with the fans, made little effort to speak English, played awful football and alienated some of the players. He was brought in to build on the previous season and failed so deserved to go. You mention Napoli, yes - he was a success there but look at the quality of the players he had. His methods simply didn’t work in the Premier League and he leaves as the most unpopular Watford manager since Dave Bassett. All that said, I’d love to see a bit of continuity with our managers so it is vital the Pozzos get the next appointment right. Dawlishhornet, Dawlish.
I don’t speak German, French or Italian so I cannot go and work to the fullest of my ability in any of those countries. I watched Mazzarri’s training and it was very stop start due to constant communication issues. He would make a point and the translator would then have to relay it. If he was committed to doing his job properly he would have learned the language, like Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola. His departure has nothing to do with player power. EMC23, Dublin.
Mazzarri was a clown who showed no empathy for the club or fans. Goldenboy99, Woking.
Yes, but what club is the manager supposed to feel for? Watford is a collection of individuals passing through: manager, players and staff. There is nothing to latch onto in a professional sense. Fans still see Watford as theirs and true; because of the shirts and the traditions and Vicarage Road, it all feels like home. Yet for an Italian coach, who will be well aware of the fate of his predecessors, it will seem very transient, just another stop on the trail. And if Flores’ personnel were so gifted maybe the club should not have sacked him last summer, having finished 13th and reached the FA Cup semi-finals. Sadly, at Watford, there is upheaval at the end of every season – then you wonder why there is no connection. The temporary nature of the management philosophy will not inspire a manager to lay down roots or to think beyond the short-term. Indeed, if there hadn’t been such an outcry over the loan signings the Pozzo family would not even have established this small degree of permanency.
Looking at Mazzarri’s squad I count seven native English speakers – three Englishmen, plus others from Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Nigeria and Jamaica – so the communication issue is overplayed. Mauricio Pochettino also had limited English and spoke through a translator in his first season at Southampton, so the barrier is no guarantee of failure. As for Mazzarri’s training, Italian coaches are very precise. Both Antonio Conte and Fabio Capello have a habit of stopping training to move players no more than a foot to the left or right. Mazzarri seems equally exacting and the stop-start proceedings may have been nothing more sinister than that. Before the season started I was with Slaven Bilic, the West Ham manager, discussing the qualities of coaches in the Premier League. “Look at Walter Mazzarri,” he suddenly exclaimed. “Fantastic coach. Amazing what he did at Napoli. And he’s at Watford. Watford!” He’s right. Mazzarri was overqualified for the job. He previously worked with some brilliant players – signed a few, too, like Edinson Cavani – and this season had a ragbag squad with the primary aim of not getting relegated. No wonder there was a clash of cultures.
Point two: on Southampton and Claude Puel
Southampton posted their second lowest points total since returning to the Premier League and scored less than a goal a game at home. They did not score in the last five home matches and reaching the League Cup final only papered over the cracks. Yes, the players have failed to perform, but Puel has to take some responsibility. Everton finished one place above us, but 17 points clear. Puel has no plan B. His bizarre and sometimes excessive rotations make no sense at all. I can only see struggles next season if Puel remains in charge. Steve N, Poole.
Steve, I can only see struggles if he doesn’t, too. Maybe not next season, maybe not the season after, but eventually unless the club policy changes. Sooner or later you will sell one too many; the Championship is full of clubs whose best players got picked off and eventually a tipping point is reached. Maybe it will not result in relegation, maybe just a relegation fight, but I wouldn’t take eighth place for granted long-term. Also, I think you’re a glass half empty guy. Yes, Southampton’s home form was poor: 17th in the table, ahead of only Crystal Palace, Middlesbrough and Sunderland. Yet the away form was good: 7th, behind only the big six, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Also, is it not possible that Puel might have got more out of the players at home, had he not spent the last month as a lame duck with rumours circulating about his future? The five match drought you talk about runs from mid-April and includes games against Manchester United, Manchester City and Arsenal. Having been so soundly undermined, I’m not sure that is entirely reflective of your season.
Disappointed not to see some reaction to the Chelsea players crashing Antonio Conte’s press conference last week, following the uproar at Leicester last year. At least in the name of consistency, Martin. Glin298, United Kingdom.
Yes, because my suspicion that Leicester’s players lacked sufficient respect for the management of Claudio Ranieri certainly turned out to be groundless. I mean, no evidence of that this season, was there? Really pulled out the stops for him, didn’t they? What a fool I was, eh? Anyway, this is a regular trope: manager gets doused in celebration champagne, some clever dick who really hasn’t thought about it long enough wonders why I am not vexed about this, given my column after Leicester’s title win last year (read it here). Yet while I still think the behaviour of some Chelsea players was pretty poor, the precise circumstances were very different.
Ranieri, for instance, was at a press conference, under the glare of television lights, in front of the media when his space was invaded and he was boorishly soaked. It was humiliating and disrespectful for him to be ambushed in those circumstances. By contrast, if you read Oliver Holt’s brilliant account of the interchanges between Conte, Diego Costa and David Luiz after Chelsea won the league at West Brom, you will note they took place in relative privacy, in front of a handful of Sunday newspaper journalists in a small ante room – and that Conte showed masterful control in handling the situation. So not the same at all. For the record, champagne soakings on the pitch, in the dressing rooms, in private, they’re all part of the fun. What happened to Ranieri demeaned his status and went too far. It was a portent of events this season.
Yes, and Kane was playing for the second-placed and highest scoring team in the league in Tottenham, Phillips for the seventh-placed, joint-sixth highest scoring team in Sunderland. I wasn’t dismissing Kane’s achievement this year, I was praising what Phillips did in 1999-2000. And your point?
Point five: football versus tragedy (answered the old way)
Sorry Martin, but you’re talking sentimental guff. Manchester United have never given anything to Manchester and it’s been proven time and again that less than 10,000 of their 75,000 crowds actually come from Greater Manchester. They have little in the way of connection to a blue city. Red Devil, Manchester.
Oh, that really is nonsense – 65,000 visitors or day trippers each week? Do you seriously believe that? I’ve lived in Manchester, Red, and have never found it to be the case that true Mancunians are all City supporters. I have met and know lots of proper Mancs who support United and you only have to hear the accents at Old Trafford to understand how much of the crowd is local. You have a point in one aspect because Sir Howard Bernstein, the former chief executive of Manchester City Council, is on record saying that City in the time of Sheikh Mansour have done more for community projects than United. But even he acknowledged that United have now recognised this and are getting more involved.
Yes, Martin, you are absolutely right. It’s time to forget about the arrogance of Manchester United and their miserable manager, forget about the titles won by intimidating and bullying the football authorities and officials over 20 years, forget about the sense of entitlement flaunted at every opportunity, forget that Jose Mourhino stopped playing competitively when he realised he wouldn’t make the top four, forget that he will cynically waste time, deploy non-football tactics and play rotation-yellow cards by kicking the hell out of skilful players like Eden Hazard – yes, it’s time to forget it all because suddenly Manchester United represent our fight against terrorism. You are quite wrong to associate last night’s game with the atrocity in Manchester. It has nothing to do with it. Manchester United are not doing this for Manchester as you assert, they are doing it for themselves, for the prize of being in the top tournament in club football, for the Champions League monies and its spin-offs, having sacrificed the top four by playing youth teams. United played for pure football reasons and no amount of silly posturing and mood music will buy them sympathy, empathy or undeserved support. I expected better from you, Martin. Shame on you. Ivor Point, United Kingdom.
Shame on me? Wow. We’ve got men conspiring to blow up children and I’m the one who should be ashamed? What a fine sense of perspective you have. And ashamed of what? Identifying that football – not Manchester United, but the sport itself – can be a positive, unifying force and evidence of our shared humanity. As for all of United’s sins listed, I’m pretty sure I’ve called them on each one, at the relevant time. Now isn’t it. And as someone who has been privileged to watch them win many trophies over 20 years may I say I rarely noticed them achieving this by putting pressure on authorities and officials. Mostly, they did it by playing the other team off the park.
My heart has nothing but sorrow for the victims and their friends and families. My thoughts are with them all. Maybe someone can explain why your article was based around Mourinho. This shows a complete lack of respect for the innocent victims, their families and friends. Assassin, United Kingdom.
It was a piece about a football match, placed in a wider social context. Mourinho is a leading figure in that football match, and a very high-profile figure in a city affected by tragedy. I tried to deal with the events as sensitively as I could. Certainly, with greater sensitivity than a person who calls himself ‘Assassin’ at a time when innocents are being slaughtered. You might want to direct your admonishments closer to home, Your Pompousness.
There is nothing anyone can do to fix this, the taxi drivers didn’t think they could fix it, the people offering beds, the homeless helping those in need and Manchester United don’t think they can either. But they are doing something, what they could, all they could. Lewis, Manchester.
I agree Lewis. Nobody thinks a football match can heal pain. But it is not without significance either.
These are players who spend every week of their lives trying desperately to avoid any contact with fans. They are shepherded about with security guards, wearing headphones for further isolation and living, in some instances, in gated communities. Yes, most have children but they never mix with the ordinary. Now, a show of solidarity with a community they know nothing about. That’s the real world, Martin Samuel. Gram Man, Spain.
Yes, that’s right. It’s only footballers who wear headphones. There must be a hell of a lot of them out there, though, because every person I see walking down the street seems to have them in. Footballers may have become distanced from the general public by wealth, but the majority are working class men who would have known precisely the type of people who lost loved ones in Manchester. They haven’t lived in gated communities all their lives, haven’t always travelled with security. I’ve walked around hospitals with Wayne Rooney as he interacts, wonderfully, with just the kind of people you claim he never meets. And look at Jermain Defoe’s relationship with poor Bradley Lowery and his family. I don’t think you’ve got a clue about the lives of footballers. Money doesn’t buy a way out of all aspects of real life. Not out of pain or misery or danger. Mrs Guardiola and her family were in Manchester Arena on Monday. And you think it couldn’t have been them?
Bunch of crap. This wasn’t an accident like a plane or train crash. This was an intentional mass murder and there are many more people looking to do the same. People need to stop deluding themselves that slogans and platitudes and claims of unity are going to somehow stop more murder. It keeps happening over and over again and will continue until people demand action – real action. It’s time to wake up. Silas11, United States.
Real action and, yet, not a single solution, Silas. So here’s one. Why not lobby your amateur hour government to keep its big mouth shut when in possession of classified information, so that we can investigate and apprehend the murdering bastard perpetrators without the US blowing our cover every five minutes? Ta. This one’s for Manchester. Thanks for everything. Until next time.
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Registration for U21 women’s trials set to close
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The deadline to register for trials for Southampton Football Club’s new under-21 women’s team is fast approaching.
Following on from the success of the club’s girls’ programme through The FA’s Tier 1 Regional Talent Club over the past year, Saints were proud to announce earlier this month that a women’s development side will be formed for the 2017/18 season.
Initially, this team will consist solely of players aged 16 to 21, with registrations being invited for those who wish to be considered for trials.
Prospective players have until 9am on Friday 26th May to register.
Southampton Football Club is committed to offering a sustainable female player pathway, through a high-quality training programme with a multi-disciplinary approach, alongside a varied games programme.
The Regional Talent Club has already seen notable success this season, with ten Southampton players achieving international selection, underlining the ethos of helping to turn potential into excellence at all levels of the game.
Head of Women’s and Girls’ Football Martina Heath said: “We will be hosting the trials at the club’s training ground, so those players who are coming into us and might be new to us can see what’s available to them and what a great club we’ve got here.”
Players participating in the trials, at Staplewood Campus, must be born between 1st September 1996 and 31st August 2001.
For full trial dates, and to register your interest for Southampton Football Club’s under-21 women’s team for the 2017/18 season, please click here.
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Revealed! Top 25 clubs to have the most Premier League goalscorers
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On the final day of the Premier League season, Manchester United saw Josh Harrop become their 100th different goalscorer since 1992, as he scored against Crystal Palace.
It was a special strike from the 21-year-old midfielder as he shimmied in from the left side of the box and slipped the ball beyond Wayne Hennessey with a fine finish.
But how many different goalscorers have other Premier League teams had since 1992?
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Sellebrity Soccer: One day to go
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There is just one day to go until St Mary’s Stadium hosts a mixture of football legends and celebrities in a Sellebrity Soccer charity game that will benefit Saints Foundation.
The Foundation, which carries out vital work in the city and surrounding areas, is one of three local good causes being supported by the event, with proceeds raised also going towards Global Radio’s ‘Make Some Noise’ charity and Just 4 Children – Sonny’s Dream to Walk.
The game, which kicks off at 7.30pm BST on Friday 26th May, will feature a host of star names, including former Saints stars Wayne Bridge, James Beattie and Franny Benali.
On the celebrity side, actor Tom Davis – who might be better known to you as Southampton’s very own Dr Barry Gale! – is also set to feature, while former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan is another big name also due to take part.
Kerry Katona and Katie Price are the respective managers of each team, with a host of other well-known names from the world of television and music set to take part.
Sellebrity Soccer matches across the country have raised hundreds of thousands of pounds for good causes, and this latest event promises to be another memorable one.
Tickets are priced at £10 for adults and £5 for children (with a £2.50 booking fee) and are available via tickets.saintsfc.co.uk, the St Mary’s Ticket Office or by calling 02381 780780.
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WATCH: Premier League Showboats of the Season
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We look back at some of the best skills of the 2016/17 Premier League season, featuring Eden Hazard, Paul Pogba and more.
There was no shortage of silky moments from the most recent campaign, and you can watch the compilation of showboats in the video above.
One such player to feature is Chelsea playmaker Hazard, who was back to his brilliant best for the Blues as they clinched the title by seven points ahead of Tottenham.
Pogba’s fancy footwork also features following his return to Manchester United from Juventus, while the wizardry of Arsenal’s Alexis Sanchez can also be admired in our video - with the Chilean enjoying a standout season for the Gunners, having netted 29 times this season.
And with Stoke’s Xherdan Shaqiri also making the cut, look no further for the best flicks and tricks from the season that was.
Click play on the video above the watch the best showboats from the Premier League season
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Revealed! The Premier League players who averaged the most key passes per game this season
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Only the most intelligent of footballers pick the right pass at the right time.
So many want to play the playmaker role, but only a few role really succeed in this position.
And, assists aside, we wanted to know who was most effective in their passing in the Premier League this season.
Scroll through the gallery above to find out which players from England’s top flight averaged the most key passes per game.
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Five Saints named in initial England under-21 squad
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Five Southampton players have been named in an initial England under-21 squad for the European Championships in Poland.
James Ward-Prowse, Nathan Redmond, Jack Stephens, Matt Targett and Sam McQueen will all meet up for their preparation camp ahead of the tournament.
Ward-Prowse and Redmond both made their senior bows in March during the 1-0 defeat to Germany.
But the duo will be hoping to finish their under-21 careers in style in a tournament which starts with an opening clash against Sweden on Friday 16th June (5pm BST).
Aidy Boothroyd’s men will then face Slovakia on Monday 19th June (5pm BST) and Poland on Thursday 22nd June (7.45pm BST).
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DEFENDER Cuco Martina has held talks with Everton over a move to Goodison Park on a free transfer, according to national newspapers.
Martina is out of contract at Saints this month after arriving two years ago while current Toffees boss Ronald Koeman was in charge at St Mary’s.
The 27-year-old worked with Erwin Koeman, Ronald’s brother and assistant manager at Everton, prior to joining Saints.
The Koemans brought Martina in as cover after Ryan Bertrand was injured and it seems they are now doing the same at Goodison Park, with right-back Seamus Coleman sidelined long-term.
The Guardian have reported that the former FC Twente man, who made 18 appearances for Saints last term, has been on Merseyside for talks.
Updated 25.05.2017 at 14.30pm: Martina has now been released by Saints.
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Cédric in Portugal’s Confederations Cup squad
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The reigning European Championship winners are taking part in the eight-team tournament, in Russia, which begins on June 17.
Portugal are grouped with Russia, New Zealand and Mexico, with Cameroon, Chile, Australia and Germany the other countries involved.
Portugal’s first match is on June 18, against Mexico, before facing the hosts on June 21 and then New Zealand on June 24.
Ahead of the tournament, Fernando Santos’s team will face Cyprus, in Estoril, on Saturday 3rd June, before travelling to Latvia for another friendly, on Wednesday 7th June.
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England Under-21s: James Ward-Prowse and Nathan Redmond named in squad ahead of Euro 2017
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James Ward-Prowse and Nathan Redmond have returned to the England Under-21s for a training camp ahead of Euro 2017.
The Southampton pair earned their first senior caps against Germany in March and June’s tournament in Poland will be their last appearances for the Young Lions before they become too old.
Manchester City’s Patrick Roberts, who has spent this season on loan at Celtic, has been handed a first call-up while Sunderland’s Jordan Pickford is also in.
But Manchester United striker Marcus Rashford has been included in the senior squad and is now not expected to travel to Poland with the Young Lions.
“We’re really looking forward to seeing everybody again and things will start to crank up a notch,” boss Aidy Boothroyd told thefa.com.
"It’s good to get them all back in together, get re-focused and make sure we’re prepared properly for the Euros.
"We’ve got players at different stages, we have lads who have played 40-game seasons who will need a different sort of conditioning to the guys who have played nine or 10 games.
“And we have players who have been coming off the bench and playing bit-parts for their teams and players who have played in different leagues as well, so we have a real mix in terms of fitness levels.”
The five-day meet next week will start the countdown for the tournament opener against Sweden on June 16 while England also face Poland and Slovakia in Group A.
UEFA’s deadline for countries to name their final 23-man squad is June 6.
Boothroyd added: "We only have The Emirates FA Cup Final, the Championship Play-Off and the Scottish Cup Final to get through so fingers crossed we will get everybody unscathed and we can have a really good training camp.
"I’ll be looking for as much information as I can gather about where everybody’s at and then I’ll pick the squad.
“But there’s a lot of good players here so it’s going to be very difficult to leave players out.”
The preliminary England squad, in full, can be seen below:
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