Ahead or level in most polls before the coup, Cherts.
It’s another reason why many of the membership have found the current course of action so unnecessarily self-destructive.
Yes, but the reason for the coup was Corbyn.
Talkin of polls
A third of Labour supporters think Theresa may would make a better prime minister
It’s not just the kids.
Not really. Corbyn himself is not the real issue. It’s more to do with what he represents, and the fundamental ideological incompatibility he has with many of his own MPs. I don’t know if you recall much about the leadership election last year, but one of the first constraints that Corbyn had were those MPs, and one of the first announcements was that Corbyn would use the upcoming September 2016 conference to further democratise the party.
Blair is credited for introducing the Presidential style of government that ultimately got us into so much hot water in Iraq. Corbyn is planning on putting forward motions at conference that will make the practice close to impossible, to make MPs accountable to their local constituents as well as the Labour Whip. It is, in short, the end of top down management in the Labour Party as we know it.
The problem for the Bitterites is that’s the only thing they seem to know. It’s one of the reasons they’re desperately trying to get their own man in before Corbyn has an opportunity to democratise the Party at conference.
Dunno if it’s been covered, but more anti-corban propaganda in the mass-media today. 
On radio just now they was making out that corbin’s No. 1 priority if he gets to be PM would be not economy, not EU, not immigration, but finding out if chicks are earning as much as bros. What a waste of time. Fkn media. Poor corbon
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Only concentrating on half the electorate?
He’ll never get that all important arse-slapping 70s throwback chauvinist vote. Short sighted of him, really.
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This comment was in an article in the Guardian about people that paid the £25 to get a vote.
“On Monday i paid my money, in September i will make my choice. It will be for Owen Smith.”
Seems like he’s already made his choice. 180,000 people to choose from and they picked him.
to be fair, so had you when you coughed up earlier this week. Looks like your vote just got cancelled out.
True, but the point here is how contradictory his statement is and he doesn’t seem to realise.
I have no problem admitting that my mind is made up and it would take a hell of an argument to change it. I may be wrong about my choices but i at least understand that I’ve already made them.
Of course I could just be jealous that they didn’t pick me.
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What the Blairites have unintentionally done with their #ChickenCoup against #JeremyCorbyn is inflame the British sense of fair play.
This is an excellent article, entitled Why Corbyn so terrifies the Guardian.
…modern human history had been marked by a series of forceful disruptions in scientific thought that he termed “paradigm shifts”. One minute a paradigm like Newtonian mechanics dominated, the next an entirely different model, like quantum mechanics, took its place – seemingly arriving as if out of nowhere.
Importantly, a shift, or revolution, was not related to the moment when the previous scientific theory was discredited by the mounting evidence against it. There was a lag, usually a long delay, between the evidence showing the new theory was a better “fit” and the old theory being discarded.
The reason, Kuhn concluded, was because of an emotional and intellectual inertia in the scientific community. Too many people – academics, research institutions, funding bodies, pundits – were invested in the established theory. As students, it was what they had grown up “knowing”. Leading professors in the field had made their reputations advancing and “proving” the theory. Vast sums had been expended in trying to confirm the theory. University departments were set up on the basis that the theory was correct. Too many people had too much to lose to admit they were wrong.
A paradigm shift typically ocurred, Kuhn argued, when a new generation of scholars and researchers exposed to the rival theory felt sufficiently frustrated by this inertia and had reached sufficiently senior posts that they could launch an assault on the old theory. At that point, the proponents of the traditional theory faced a crisis. The scientific establishment would resist, often aggressively, but at some point the fortifications protecting the old theory would crumble and collapse. Then suddenly almost everyone would switch to the new theory, treating the old theory as if it were some relic of the dark ages.
Alan Johnson, once feted by Lou and Furbs as their choice for Labour leader.
His own constituency just voted 48-7 in favour of Corbyn. Almost seven times more than against.
Interesting - I like Alan Johnson - he has a broad appeal and is someone who I could conceive voting for.
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Do you actually remember his performances in any of the offices of state?
I suspect even he knows he’s not up for the job, which is why he has never gone for it, despite having two decent opportunities to to do.
Didn’t he resign the last one after a couple of month because his wife had an affair, and he wanted time away from the spotlight
Bloody hell. Thomas Kuhn quoted on a football forum - well I never…