Let me guess - Owen Jones doesn’t support Corbyn any more?
More like Owen Jones is working for the Establishment he once derided and wrote about.
Nothing unusual there, but given that he made a great deal of money from criticising it, I reckon the rank hypocrisy is worth pointing out, especially if you can demonstrate that not everyone has to go that way.
You’re becoming somewhat obsessed with Corbyn, @thecholulakid
Nope - just fed up of watching the Labour Party fiddling while Rome burns.
Me too, but he is not the reason that the Labour Party isn’t unified. We’re talking about a minority of a party putting their own narrow, factional interests ahead of the country. Corbyn doesn’t have an effective opposition so should be doubly praised for opposing as much as he has.
The last time the motley crew of New Labour were in charge, Ed Miliband wouldn’t march with the NHS, was undone by a bacon sandwich leaving Harriet Harman to order Labour MPs to abstain on a welfare bill. That is not opposition. That is prostration.
Is there not a touch of “with us or with our enemies” about your comments on Owen Jones?. It does seem sometimes that if someone doesn’t back Corbyn to the hilt your immediate response is that they’ve pretty much teamed up with Blair.
Nothing is that black and white, that two-dimensional.
Owen Jones is not a Blairite, but he’s painted himself into something of a corner over at the Guardian. After writing two very well received books which challenged established thinking or the nature of the establishment itself, I think that there was an expectation from the left that he’d be supporting a movement that wants to reform all that shit.
He did not join the right. What you’ve got with Jones is a classic case of fence sitting for numerous professional purposes. First, there’s the obvious line his employers have taken re: Corbyn and the obvious fact that there aren’t that many national newspaper columnist spots open. Second, there’s the whole access thing. He gets to speak with everybody, and he’s probably able to do that because he’s still a believer in the myth that all them MPs represent Labour voter interests. He has never seriously acknowledged their disgraceful conduct and ongoing facilitation in making the Tories look better than they are.
He has actually written more articles criticising the Corbyn leadership team than those that are trying to undermine him. He has provided countless bits of ammunition for the right wingers to use on social media, and very little to the left of the party.
Shame really, because I enjoyed his work The Establishment hugely. His stuff for the Guardian? Less so.
I see little Owen has had another paddy and stormed off Twitter. The blokes a fucking idiot, isn’t it about time his mummy grounded him?
I did not know that, but revised my opinion in the interim regardless.
He’s not really a fence-sitter, is he?
He says it’s because of the abuse he’s getting, but of course Twitter being Twitter people have got screen shots of abusive things he’s tweeted to others.
This recent article reminded me that Owen Jones does get off the fence.
Just has a big crap on Corbyn’s lawn every time he does.
Looks like JC just had a massive crap in the Scotish Labour party’s lawn re his comments over a second referendum
I see that the Guardian is reporting the remarkable news that a left wing group, constituting the views of the majority of the Labour Party, is seeking to take over the political direction of the party.
What a shocker
As a recent attendee to a Momentum meeting, the overriding theme of that meeting was to ensure we all turned up to CLP meetings and could thus take part in important votes. We should be doing that anyway.
I remember reading this myself, and immediately listened into the recording expecting to hear the damning evidence.
And yet all I heard was some old chap talking about getting support together, persuading people and winning votes and shit.
eh…meh?
The long and the short of it is that there are loads less people in the Labour Party on the right wing, but those that are there are likely to have been ingrained for awhile, and either au fait with political procedures themselves or are getting help from people that are. They’ve exploited the newb factor basically, which rather makes a mockery of the idea of long term Trots and militants crawling out from the ideological bunker en-masse.
Nice dovetailing, I thought.
Cohen has been stridently critical of Corbyn throughout.
This is like that scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, where Jay is talking about making people eat their own shit, shit it out, and then eat it again.
Welcome to the post-Corbyn opinion columns of Nick Cohen. Built on columns of his own shit.
This is just ludicrous. I don’t profess to know (or even care very much) about the ins and outs of the division in the Labour Party right now but to hear the leader on momentum on the radio yesterday talking about how she was moderate (really, seriously, loltastic?!) and infighting galore, with Corbyn doing his best impression of an ineffectual supply teacher trying to keep the unruly kids apart. Jeez, looks like a couple of decades of Tory rule ahead of us. May could do whatever she wanted right now and it would make no difference. The Tories must be laughing their heads off…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39334657
It’s like the People’s Front of Judea. Splitters!!!
Polls is shit.
Source: Brexit, Trump, General Election 2015.
in Corbyns case it would have to a monumental pile of shit in the shittiest place in shit land to reverse the gap that exists