šŸ—³ Local elections 2022

Conservatives are losing lots of seats though, so thatā€™s good.

Aye, but not to Labour where it matters.

Tories lost London a long time ago. Westminster and Wandsworth are simply the latest to go.

The result from Southampton ought to be interesting.

Thatā€™s exactly what struck me. London is where Labour are strongest these days, since Blair"s Islington Mafia. Ironic, given they canā€™t seem to buy a seat in their traditional heartlands.

Gone to Labour. The city is red :flushed::flushed::smile:

Well that is interesting. Southampton is very swingy and is normally a bellwether.

Personally, I put it down to the Saints lack of form.

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That will be our bid to be the city of culture fucked then.

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Interesting youā€™d consider that a major factor. :joy::joy::joy:

No it will be the Go Southampton bullshit that my company now has to pay an additional business rates top up for

I didnā€™t want it, I wonā€™t benefit from it, and the wankers moved the catchment 100 yds to pick up our office block

This is just some cynical crap just so SCC can move a load of civil servants wages off their books somewhere else.

Cunts

And I just got the office electric bill

Double cunts

Lib Dems have taken Hull off of Labour - and that has nothing to do with the Tories as they only had one seat (which they lost)

It does if the tory vote crumbled and the the voters went to the libs, in turn would screw labour over with the extra voters, happens all the time in locals.

Outside of London Starmer did worse than Corbyn according to Prof John Curtice. Despite the absolute shit show of the criminal Johnson and his crew, and their reducing the country to what amounts to a corrupt Banana Republic without the bananas. Starmer is fucking hopeless, he may appeal to some disallusioned Conservative voters in the South with his watered down Tory tribute act but it wonā€™t wash north of Watford. The Greens had a good night, well done them.

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We need Angela Rayner in.

Pervert.

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I would love to see that but I fear Mandelson and his team, who, letā€™s face it are running the Labour Party again now wouldnā€™t let Angela Rayner or anyone else who would take the party in a remotely socialist direction anywhere near the leadership. Thatā€™s his role, on behalf of the money men, the established order, not to rock the boat.

Starmer is finding out the hard way that pandering to the likes of the Daily Mail and The Sun, dancing to their tune, which is what heā€™s been doing ever since he became leader, means absolutely Jack Shit when elections come round, their main role is to prevent a Labour government of any hue and they will shit on him just like they did to his predecessors. He is beyond naive, hasnā€™t got a political instinct in his body, he stands for nothing, it screams at you everytime he gets up and speaks. Heā€™s just parroting what heā€™s told to parrot by team Mandelson and the Blairite rump. They have lost over 200,000 party members and are openly rejoicing in the fact, because they were 200,000 who Starmer betrayed, and who would have voted against him in a leadership contest. A job well done as they see it. They are no better or different than the Tories when it comes to gerrymandering and dishonesty.

Any Labour leader in the future has to find a way of countering the corrupt influence of the Tory media, take the gloves off and find a way of fighting fire with fire, play as dirty as they do, the moral high ground will only take you so far. Starmer actually wrote a column in The Sun, which has put the tin hat on whatever, admittedly slim chance he had in Merseyside. And it would have been a deliberate, calculated decision, a snub to the people of Liverpool, knowing the genuine hurt and disgust it would cause. Which it did. I have no doubt that the reckoning was that brownie points with Rupert Murdoch trumped all that though. What a naive, unprincipled fool Starmer is. He would do well to remember the words of the late, much lamented Frank Zappa.

ā€˜Itā€™s a fine line between kneeling down and bending overā€™.

'Itā€™s a fine line betw

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The only remotely electable leader Labour has had in the last 40 years is Blair and you fucking hated him

At best you will get centre left - but you need a leader that firstly has something about them and secondly appeals to the wider electorate

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The good voters of Central Meon Valley have duly elected a Green Party councillor, giving the Tories a bit of a kicking in the process. Iā€™d never have expected my own vote to count for anything here, but this time it did.

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People only started hating him after he became Dubyaā€™s poodle and lied to get a war started.

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We can have a centre left but one who appeals to the middle ground ie Rayner, also we could get a centrist deputy like Jon Cruddus.
Without middle England Labour can not get elected and no way were middle England voting for Corbyn, we can be pure but on the sidelines or we can concede some ground and have a chance of power.