Oh no, it is a labour thing for sure. But this bloke will not be PM, as the timing is completely wrong for him. We just have to sit out the Tory stranglehold for at least another term after this. Labour are a serious shambles.
Well JC has shown his political naivety. His not singing the National Anthem has taken all the front and firmly pushed the most important issue of yesterday, the vote to reduce tax credits, into the background.
plus he has managed to set off his own European crisis within the Labour Party. He will need to get a grip of this fast.
Undoubtedly, but heāll be winning a few votes too, potentially dragging new voters into the debate whilst painting Labour as a clear, red water alternative to the Tories. And this difference will be locked into the minds of the electorate long after the storm over the national anthem has blown over.
And all of this whilst sticking to his beliefs.
Iām not saying this isnāt naive or misguided, or that it isnāt bad for Corbyn and Labour, but some might say he had no choice but to stand in respectful silence.
And there lies the problem with those who stick with their āprinciplesā come hell or high water.
Originally posted by @saintbletch
Undoubtedly, but heāll be winning a few votes too, potentially dragging new voters into the debate whilst painting Labour as a clear, red water alternative to the Tories. And this difference will be locked into the minds of the electorate long after the storm over the national anthem has blown over.
And all of this whilst sticking to his beliefs.
Iām not saying this isnāt naive or misguided, or that it isnāt bad for Corbyn and Labour, but some might say he had no choice but to stand in respectful silence.
I think it was clear that within the party, Corbyn has to pull them together if he has a chance in 2020. Weāve seen elements of that already, and I think heās canny to do that. That said, I think heās spot on for continuing to observe his own beliefs and keep acting as the signpost. Personally, as someone without a great deal of time for either Gods or Queens, I admire his stance. Iām sure others will, just as Iām sure that deferent kneelers will get upset about this commoner not honouring this woman that is automatically better than the rest of us.
What is starting to amuse and grate in equal measure is the same people that told us that Corbyn would never win the leadership election, some of current membership included, expecting to have their next set of predictions taken seriously despite messing up the last big punt.
I watched the TUC speech yesterday. Over 250,000 voted for Corbyn. Thatās twice as many people that presently exist in the Conservative Party. Not all are presently members, but 30K have signed up since Saturday. If Corbyn can mobilise this huge army of volunteers, are we really to believe that he has no chance?
If heād sung the national anthem yesterday, theyād have gone after him for being a fraud. The media are cunts, or run by cunts, not that the distinction makes much difference.
Bet Morning Starās circulation has gone up 
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Iād say the larger problem happens when you sell out your principles and donāt live your life in accordance with your own credo.
Iām talking about problems that present themselves personally, not those that Labour will face because they have a man that tries to be consistent with his beliefs.
And I have to be careful (Furball is sitting on my shoulder) not to ascribe sainthood to Corbyn. Iām sure heās got inconsistencies like the rest of us, but everything Iāve seen so far tells me that he tries to follow principles.
In this age of spin and focus groups, I find it totally refreshing
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Actually one thing I did like was that he didnāt pre brief the press on his speech. One reporter said (telegraph I beleive) that he had to actually listen for once.
I wish they would all do this as opposed to the " the PM will say today" bullshit you read - what is the point of the speech if it has already been released
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This is an article which departs from the wisdom weāve received so far.
He declined to appear on the BBC or Sky TV, normally the first stop for a politicianās victory lap. Instead, he gave an exclusive to The Huffington Post, in which he described his media strategy. Itās worth quoting at length:
ā¦ he said that much of the media and even MPs in his own party were out of touch with most votersā daily lives ā and predicted that social media would play a key role in the 2020 election.
āI think the role of electronic and social media is absolutely massive. The way of doing politics is seen as very out of date,ā he said.
āMPs are a bit cut off. But if I may say so, some of the editorial rooms in some of our broadsheet newspapers are even more cut off. They simply do not understand whatās going on out there. They just donāt get it.
āThe majority of people donāt buy a newspaper, they read bits online and self-inform online and so we have to reach out in a different way.
"And our campaign has been very much social media orientated. My personal Twitter account now has 104,000 followers, our Facebook is 124,000 likes.
āSo those kind of numbers are enormous and of course the re-tweeting and re-sending makes it massive.ā
Mr Corbyn praised The HuffPost UK, many of whose readers have joined his campaign, for its coverage of the leadership contest.
āIād like to thank The Huffington Post for the responsible way in which youāve reported this campaign.ā
TLDR: I donāt need the BBC or Sky or the Mail or The Guardian. Iām going to go around them and talk directly to the voters who are interested.
This is the strategy that delivered his massive victory, and added 115,000 people as Labour Party members during his campaign.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-hatred-of-the-media-2015-9
How many of those that voted do you think are Tories thoughā¦?
First PMs Questions today, will be listening intently.
Had a dream last night where I was in a room with David Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn, discussing reforms needed for the NHS. Cameron was agreeing with Corbynās tactic of increasing spending massively to save the NHS from imploding. It made sense in a vacuum, until Corbyn explained he was going to sell the Royal Family to Turkey (not sure why theyād want it) to fund it. Then it turned out my Uncle was David Cameron, which he most certainly isnāt.
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How many people that voted Tory were actually Tories? Itās not the Tory voter that Labour was chasing; it was the floating voter. The point is that Labour are going to have a lot more people on the ground. My grandad, 82 and flip flops like crazy these days, loves Corbyn and has announced himself back in the camp. His voting record? Labour (historically), UKIP (recent Euros), Conservative (recent General) and now Labour again.
People wonāt vote for virtually no change with a large risk. Thatās why every opposition has to do the job of convincing them to change, and itās hard. Most people, when it comes down to it, vote for self-interest. Corbynās challenge is to promote a left-wing agenda while maintaining a level of self-interest for people to vote for.
Going by the broad reaction to some of his policies, and their universality, I think thatās more than achievable.
This on FB in response to the āmedia frenzyā because JC didnāt sacrifice his principles
No, how many Tories voted for Corbyn, you plum. I know of 3, and thats just people in my office.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
First PMs Questions today, will be listening intently.
Had a dream last night where I was in a room with David Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn, discussing reforms needed for the NHS. Cameron was agreeing with Corbynās tactic of increasing spending massively to save the NHS from imploding. It made sense in a vacuum, until Corbyn explained he was going to sell the Royal Family to Turkey (not sure why theyād want it) to fund it. Then it turned out my Uncle was David Cameron, which he most certainly isnāt.
I thought it about it earlier, admittedly while awake, and thought how refreshing it would be if Corbyn takes a new, enlightened, approach to PMQs and just starts throwing eggs when anyone disagrees with him. I would watch that
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Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
No, how many Tories voted for Corbyn you plum? I know of 3, and thats just people in my office.
Ah, fruit-based insults from a man that canāt count. Fuck you, you loganberry.
I donāt know, Cherts. I donāt know how I was ever expected to 
It was more a rhetorical question, but the point is that just because 250000 people voted for him, it doesnāt mean that there are 250000 people that are Labour supporters of him! Just one of those things that will come out in the wash I suppose. He does need to become less obtuse thoughā¦not sure how easy that will be considering thatās what his lifeās work is.
Plum is a term of endearment btwā¦
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Loganberry means āutter Shy Tory Taurus bastardā.
Itās from the Greek, apparently.
Sounds about right.
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First PMQs today. Anyone else watching the Parliament channel at 12?