I have no idea of how much excess is produced on a national scale but it cant be much at all as the current approx renewable provision is about 45% of the UK’s usage. You’re right of course about storage and it will be interesting to see the advances in tech over the next few years.
I should have been more precise about the windfall tax, i meant extending it to the utilities from the gas and oil co’s, but didn’t make that clear.
I think the price caps are dealing with Utilities - Not sure I would like to be in a business where the govt dictates my selling price and the wholesale markets are going up and down like a fiddlers elbow
Yeah, but then today Centrica announce a five fold increase in profits when people are wondering how to pay their fooking bills.
There are some businesses that should be state controlled so that they don’t have to make massive shareholder pensions. Power and water are but 2 examples.
I know, historically, these sort of businesses have not been run well under state control but something needs to be done.
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I’ve got a better solution.
What’s the point in staying here “propping up” 
the Russian economy?
Hmmmm…Nahhh!
Russia’s economy is being “catastrophically” crippled by Western sanctions according to experts, despite Vladimir Putin’s efforts to hide the damage.
Analysts at Yale looking at “private Russian language and unconventional data sources” say imports have “collapsed” and domestic production “has come to a complete standstill”.
Russia has lost companies representing around two-fifths of its GDP amid an exodus of Western businesses, they claim, undoing about three decades of foreign investment.
The pressures are tipping Mr Putin into “unsustainable, dramatic” fiscal and monetary interventions, the report says, claiming “Kremlin finances are in much, much more dire straits than conventionally understood”.
The report, from Yale’s Chief Executive Leadership Institute, describes itself as “one of the first comprehensive economic analyses” of how Russia’s economy is faring five months on from the invasion of Ukraine.
I think I’m right in saying that @pap @lifeintheslowlane @BTripz @Cobham-Saint @Nottarf-Krap and I were the only ones on here that would dearly have wished to see Corbyn in charge, so I’ll just point out that such measures have been offered to the electorate in the not so distant past. 
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I was of that ilk too.
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I think is was the proposed method - when asked about how they would be able to afford it, McDonnel said he would not pay market value because market value would be predicated on future income and if there was no future income then there was very little value to buy. He then said he would he would pay the lower amount with funny money.
Nope, me as well.
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I don’t think that would have had much effect on the election, tbh. It was the principle of public ownership of these bodies, general elections aren’t so much decided on the minutiae of details as the general policy being suggested. But I accept that it is piss easy for any party to swamp general discussion with “exactly how, to the last penny, will it be funded?” type questions.
See above 
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As I was saying…
I think you’re underestimating a fair bit there.
Shhhh. When I’ve flushed them all out I’m dibbing them in to Sir Keir for his execution squads.
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I’ll keep quiet then…oh, shit 
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Ahem, excuse me!
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The minutes have been duly amended, Brother Nottarf.
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