So why did they need to know my ethnicity before they told me they could not help me?
Almost everything asks for ethnicity these days, but not for the reasons you think.
Organisations do it to cover themselves, so if they’re ever asked in future, they can point to the kinds of people they housed. It’s actually a racism prevention measure. If someone in a position of authority was for or against a particular group, this simple act of data collection can either damn or exonerate them.
They’re not, surprisingly, asking so they can tell whitey to fuck off.
Whilst I had tongue in cheek in an earlier post - the problem is that this is so complex. Its easy if you bring it purely down to sovereignty and that is your thing. But if you stand back and look at the 100s even 1000s of things the EU does and then try and work out on balance whether it is better to stay in or leave, its an mpossible task - further complicated by the bias brought to the argument by BOTH sides.
So for me its gut feeling on principles. I have no issue with sovereignty or borders as for me its all piss in the wind anyway when we think of the bigger longer time scale. The EU is flawed. The EU has a ton of corrupt fuckers feeding at the trough, the EU struggles to cope when countries have economic woes and then everyone worries that its just the Germans and French wanting to run things… well they seem to get their economies in OK shape, have better social care and pensions, protected workers rights etc… but that is another argument.
But the EU also does good things…and bad things… and good things… So back to principles. I cant stand those smug cunts like Farage and his ilk that have tried to disrupt the system from the start… there is something unsavoury and sinister about their attitudes toward immigration and migrants (I have never hear fargae say anything that he is concerned with the number of white Australians taking our bar jobs in London…) they come across like Nick Griffins smarter older brother…it’s also difficult the other smug cunt Cameron is voting to stay in…so its a close call, but inclusiveness wins out for me, if only to send a message that we are NOT affraid of being part of someting that unites people. I just wish we would play a bigger role, rather than always pissing in from the outside.
Yeah, this’ll probably make you want to vote Remain more than ever, Cherts.
I don’t give a fuck whatever way someone votes, but if you end up voting along these lines, please be good enough to confirm it.
It’s always good to have something in the locker that’ll keep you laughing for eternity, especially on rainy days. The idea of you making a decision that the country has been waiting to make for 40 years on the basis of few opinions you don’t like on a 159 member Southampton forum (particularly with the BS qualification) is fucking brilliant.
It is more to do with democracy than economics for me. No one knows with any degree of certainty what will happen if we stay in or if we leave - they can project, forecast and theorise to their hearts content, but ultimately they just don’t know - they are guessing.
It is about who ultimately governs this country. If we stay in, we will ,imo, inexorably be drawn closer to a federal Europe. This is what the EU has done over the 40 years of our membership. Where will be in another 40 years? By being in the EU we have a say in what goes on - great, but we are only one voice in 28, and as more countries join (and they inevitably will) our voice will be increasingly drowned out.
I prefer to be governed by a government who I have elected, not a commission / president that is appointed and who is by and large, unaccountable. Admittedly the current mob at Westminster are not particularly good, but at least we have the option to get rid of them. We have no say with the commission or the president of the EU.
I want the issues of this country decided by our elected officials not those in the EU, who I either haven’t elected or do not have the UKs best interest at heart. Im not anti migration, I just want our government to decide what skills we need and tailor policy to that. Im not anti worker rights, I just want our government to balance the needs of the UK worker against the needs of the UK economy.
I dont care about the personalities involved for either campaign. In fact the most vocal, have probably taken the first steps of killing their political careers - DC and GO have in my eyes lost credibility for all of the exaggerated claims they have made throughout this campaign. I think that DC is now a lame duck PM and the tories will look to a leadership election as soom as they can find a credible candidate that isn’t GO or Boris.
And thats exactly what they did. Asked me my racial background and then told me to fuck off. So I did, to the Philippines where at least I know the government will not lift a finger to help me pretty similar to the poor locals they dont lift a finger to help them either. Any disaster is immedialtely put out so foreign aid comes in. But I know where I stand.
And I have just been told by the electoral commission that I am not allowed to vote because they cannot find any previous records of me voting although I have only been registered at 2 addresses in the UK both alledgedly have turned up with no record of me.
I don’t think being a bro helped either. If I wanted benefits I would say i was an Immigrant from Asylum country, and I was pregnant, and preferably Disabled, and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that really cos it makes sense to house the Most Vulnerable First. We don’t want the streets littered with dead babies.
Gotta say, this whole campaign has been something of an eye-opener. The lines of division have been somewhat different, putting me on the same ideological side as CB Saint and the opposite to KRG. It’s probably the closest I’ll ever get to feeling what it’s like to be a Tory supporter, in terms of attracting flak from the “left”.
I’ve not been that impressed with the Remain arguments. As CB says, it’s all forecasts and those forecasts are coming from the people that have failed to forecast domestic performance within the EU. It’s a lot of screaming essentially saying the same thing. Brits can’t make it on their own. Pretty much the last country you want to foist that lie upon.
So why was I denied anything after they knew my ethnicity and age ? up until that point they were quite happy to answer my queries and listen to my sob story of why I was unemployed. then sorry we cant help you.
I cant answer as to why they refused to entertain the fact that I may have required benifits but the people at Hythe refused to give me an answer.
what was the explanation they gave you? That would be a sensible starting point. I doubt they told you that they wouldn’t help you because you’re white and middle aged.
ah, thanks Bearsy, I’d missed that point. Well, maybe you should have asked again, maybe insisted. I simply don’t believe that people in this country are refused benefits because they’re white. I’m also surprised that you just accepted that there was no explanation, so much so that you decided it would be easier to move to the Philippines than pursue the matter. Basically, the whole thing stinks of bullshit.
I am somewhat perturbed by this stance Chertsey and thought you were a better person than that.
To vote against your principles because of the people that also want to vote the same way as you is crass and weak. If that was the case then surely you’d never vote Conservative (there’s some pretty nasty characters that vote Conservative) or Labour (ditto).
Thanks CB for penning my thoughts. What really fecks me off is that your are considered racist (by some) if you want to control your borders.
This morning there is a report that net Long Term migration to the UK was 333,000 in 2015 alone.
Not a lot you’d say but if think that that’s about 1.3 times the population of Southamption it becomes a bit of an eye-opener!
Where are they all going to go? The country just does not have the infrastructure to support these levels long term. To continue along these lines we’d have to build a Soton sized city every year!!
Cheers Fatso, why would I want to make up stories on here I have told it as I have felt it. and I already had markers down in the Philippines before this incident happened so it was not to difficult to do. As soon as I had obtained a position that did not require my resdence in the UK I left. approx 6 months. That includes obtaining a position for 3 months in the UK where I not only paid emergency top rate tax I have not claimed any of that back as I was entitled to do.
Cheers Fatso, why would I want to make up stories on here I have told it as I have felt it. and I already had markers down in the Philippines before this incident happened so it was not to difficult to do.
I’m with you, I don’t like complaining + making fuss. If I had choice between complaining, and moving to moon, i would move to moon.