I found that the out leaflet had more information that I required as the remain, again seemed to just name famous people that think we should remain. Even then their quotes are a little bit vague.
There are some daft, ridiculous and scary shit out there… from both ‘sides’…
The real problem with those leaflets is that they are made out of that shiny paper, so you can’t even wipe your arse with them properly.
that’s cos EU have v.onerous regulations re: the type of paper and laminate finishes used for promotional material. If we Brexit, we will in future be able to use absorbant double ply materials and wipe our arse on government propaganda in comfort.
More irony in Scotchland where I is living…apart from SNP happy to be ruled from Brussels but not from Westminster… (nothing against the English,no, seriously nothing), they also contradict themselves with respect to risk. In the independence debate the YES campaign countered many of the economic concerns expressed with the argument that yes there was risk, but it would be worth taking it to ensure local decision making… yet now the SNP are keen to remain in EU and are using the risks to economy as one of their ‘remain’ reasons… of course what they really want is for Scotland to show a clear majority for remain, with the UK voting Voting Brexit, to drive further claims for another Inde vote… but its their bare faced contradiction on risk that seems to go un challenged by the media here…
LOls 
Indeed, but I am sure you appreciate the humour in including the cuntometer in such an assessment? especially given the amount of nonsense both sides seem to spouting… looking at that xenophobic shite from ‘leave.eu’ - they just added to the scale, giving DC a run for his money…
Would love to see John Snow on C4 news election night bouncing around and gesticulating infront of a cuntometer.
You’d need weighting though, Gove is much denser in a cunts per square cm3 than most. He is also in possession of one of the most punchable faces on the planet. Considering he shares a party with Osbourne that in itself is no small feat
I’d like to see C4 get them all super-high, and watch them freak out like JS did.
I’m not usually one to revel in others misery, but what with them seemingly taking such glee in wrecking people’s lives, and society in general, I’ll make an exception this time.
I tried to burn mine the day it arrived. I started out by just putting a lighter to it. No dice.
I then got a slow burning night candle, stuck the leaflet on my barbecue grill, positioning the candle just underneath one of the outer edges. Apart from being singed at the edges, again, nothing happening.
It finally combusted when I placed it in the ashes of a barbecue that we did the other week.
I can’t help thinking the government overspent on those leaflets.
mmm bbq brisket brexit
Both sides think we are idiots - sadly they are half right.
It’s pointless arguing over personalities, imo.
Neither Farage nor Cameron are going to be on the scene for long. Ironically, the best way to get shot of both is to Brexit.
Farage will have no reason to exist and Cameron will be out on his ear.
The issue being, it will put Boris, Gove, IDS & somehow Fox (are we all just forgetting what happened with him now he is pro-Brexit?) front and centre of the govt.
Hardly a hugely preferable option.
Brexit will also have massively galvanising effect to the Right in this country.
Pap, this should NOT imho be underestimated. Its no surprize that the Xeophobes and right wingers are on the Brexit side… and the self serving greedy right wingers on the Remain. Sometimes its easier to accept a bloated self interested greed and undeomocratic body (sic) than bow to the desires of such xenophobes… not sure why you are taking my obvious tongue in cheek posts above so literally, because it is NEVER about personality, its about what they stand for and why they are supporting something… that cannot and should not be ignored when looking at something so complex.
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Originally posted by @KRG
The issue being, it will put Boris, Gove, IDS & somehow Fox (are we all just forgetting what happened with him now he is pro-Brexit?) front and centre of the govt.
Hardly a hugely preferable option.
Brexit will also have massively galvanising effect to the Right in this country.
Pap, this should NOT imho be underestimated. Its no surprize that the Xeophobes and right wingers are on the Brexit side… and the self serving greedy right wingers on the Remain. Sometimes its easier to accept a bloated self interested greed and undeomocratic body (sic) than bow to the desires of such xenophobes… not sure why you are taking my obvious tongue in cheek posts above so literally, because it is NEVER about personality, its about what they stand for and why they are supporting something… that cannot and should not be ignored when looking at something so complex.
I think there’s every chance we’ll get a snap general election if we Brexit.
I also think KRG’s post is a precise example of why I’m trying to steer this away from personalities. He’s talking about people that would be subject to a general election. You’re suggesting that I vote for permanent dictatorship because I might temporarily get politicians I don’t like.
No skin off my nose. I’ve had politicians I don’t like running things for years now.
The pair of you are talking political certainty, like a massive galvanisation to the right, yet the only certainty is that you’ll be voting to retain an unelected executive, forever.
It is, in my view, bollocks.
Is that not a little OTT Pap? You seem to quite enjoy this propoganda stuff 
… and IDSor Boris are not teh problem… but the unsavoury right winger and xenophobes are… and I make no apologies for including these things in my assessment
Ah excellent. pap’s trademark “this view doesn’t tally with mine, therefore it’s bollocks”.
How many opinions have you discounted in all the Brexit threads simply because you don’t like the people?
Yes, of course the comment about galvanisation was my opinion. I didn’t mean to suggest it was political certainty. Likewise, Boris, Gove et al forming a potential new Tory leadership if the vote does go to Leave - is also my opinion.
Neither are that wildly speculative.
“unelected executive, forever” - sure thing. That’s a bit of a distortion of how it actually works, some may even call it scaremongering. And, unless we decide to cut all ties with the EU - there will still be need to bend to EU law and regs, just like all the other countries that have to deals we supposedly want to model ours on have to, only we will have no say whatsoever. That is obviously beneficial.
**sure this will get replies, but I am actually going to be offline for the evening now. So wait to shout at me or just ignore me. Both/either are fine.
Scotland operating outside of the UK but still in the largest market in the world is a lot more secure than Scotland operating inside the UK and outside of the EU bloc…imo of course! 
Originally posted by @KRG
Ah excellent. pap’s trademark “this view doesn’t tally with mine, therefore it’s bollocks”.
How many opinions have you discounted in all the Brexit threads simply because you don’t like the people?
Yes, of course the comment about galvanisation was my opinion. I didn’t mean to suggest it was political certainty. Likewise, Boris, Gove et al forming a potential new Tory leadership if the vote does go to Leave - is also my opinion.
We’ve got a vote on whether we want to leave Europe.
We get another vote to decide our domestic politicians.
It really is that simple. I don’t know why you keep confusing the two.
Neither are that wildly speculative.
No, but the idea that you’re trying to float, that Britain will in the grip of these men, is fanciful. They won’t be able to command majority support in Parliament. A fresh mandate will be needed at the exact moment the Tory party will be ripping itself up over what just happened.
It’s Remainer horror porn. Stop whacking off to that stuff.
“unelected executive, forever” - sure thing. That’s a bit of a distortion of how it actually works, some may even call it scaremongering. And, unless we decide to cut all ties with the EU - there will still be need to bend to EU law and regs, just like all the other countries that have to deals we supposedly want to model ours on have to, only we will have no say whatsoever. That is obviously beneficial.
Is it? How?
Please tell us how it is really democratic because really, MPs vote on the one person representing our interests on the EU Commission.
Then tell us what recourse the British public has to deal with a Commissioner they don’t like.
Deal with facts or I’ll call your bollocks. It was designed to be a dictatorship in 2006.
**sure this will get replies, but I am actually going to be offline for the evening now. So wait to shout at me or just ignore me. Both/either are fine.
Fine. It’s not like you ever answered the points on the anti-democratic nature of the EU anyway.