This is an excellent video making some of the same points and more.
Season one. Lets the new hubby pour molten gold over the head of her only living family member, to her knowledge at least.
Now he was a gigantic twat, but he was still her brother. They could have exiled him.
Indeed⊠she smiled as I recall⊠so anyone who has missed this is a bit⊠well. TBH, I have now watched it from the start around 3 times and each time you pick up more of the subtle clues, like a well constructed crime drama⊠its all there. Te character development has been consistent⊠the only shocks are who gets ârubbed out with extreme prejudiceâ
Daenerys has basically solved all of her problems with violence, and has failed when she has tried subtlety and statecraft. Sheâs a conqueror, not a ruler, and she never really had any intention of doing anything but her way or the highway. Every time she triumphs, things are burnt.
There are people that used to love Game of Thrones for its strong female characters because according to them, most have been lowered in status. Examples would include Cersei and Dany. Itâs not something I buy. Atya killed the Night King, Sansa has tremendous power in the North, Brienne is the first ever female knight in Westeros.
Yeah, but it took a man to knight her, brah - typical complainer on feminist grounds
Of course it fucking did! What part of first female knight do you not get?
He was already in exile! The only shittier, further east place remaining for him was Portsmouth. He was probably happy with the burning pot over his head.
bit of a dilemma in our flat. I am out tomorrow evening for a free TV recording. That means we either wait to watch GoT Tuesday evening or I watch tomorrow during the day and he watches when he gets in.
Itâs in the bank for me. I will not spoil at this juncture, but I was quite happy with it.
Uhm⊠well it was interesting, surprizing and without the big set pieces. I felt it was a little rushed given its taken 9 years and 85 odd episodes to get to that conclusion⊠satisfying? Well it ties up loose ends, but despite not being disappointed, was left a bit underwhelmed⊠but that may be that so many of the episodes across all series (I refuse to use âseasonsâ) have been so very good.
As Iâve said before, donât think these last couple of seasons are rushed. Theyâre just dealing with a tighter group of characters, less ensemble casting and less globe trotting. Itâs the natural consequence of killing a lot of your characters. Theyâre no longer around to say witty things.
Seasons 1-5 were rushed. Doesnât seem like it because theyâre quite slow-paced, but the amount of material skipped is quite staggering.
I have never read any of the books so am only commenting on this from the perspective of a TV drama⊠and the pace up to series 7 was consistent. Series 8 whilst very good, just seems hurried and has a sense of âletâs get it over withâ ⊠as viewers we had become accustomed to the pace of the storytelling and so it jars a little with respect to the series. Nothing to do with less characters
Sorry mucker, but the dwindling number of characters is absolutely going to affect the sense of pace in a drama. More characters means more interactions, and if youâre giving them equal screen time, then by definition, the more characters you have, the less time you have with each.
Two seasons ago, the intro was a broad sweep across the known world, taking in Westeros, the Narrow Sea and Essos.
This year, itâs all Westeros with a bit of Dragonstone thrown in.
I genuinely donât think this this season has been rushed either. The first two episodes were replete with character interactions and were far more focused on dialogue than action. The first half of episode four was pretty much the same, except condensed because half the main cast had died.
Iâm onboard with where every single one of those characters ended up. Every arc works for me. My only gripe is that Lena Headeyâs Cersei really didnât have much to do this year. Mind you, given that she pretty much owned season six, she can have no complaints.
Just finished it. Didnât go to the recording in the end as couldnât be bothered with queuing and maybe not getting in.
Have just one issue with the ending but will wait until others have finished watching.
Iâve enjoyed this last season tremendously. Agree with Pap, it hasnât felt rushed to me. Some big set pieces that they took time over. And the rest of it was almost pure character. The endings, while not always pleasing some fans, seemed to be the endings that the natures of the characters had built to.
Cersei would always allow everyone to burn while trying to protect her children. Daenerys believed in her own righteousness above anyone elseâs rights. Jon Snow was too fucking stupid and trusting for his own good and the only lesson he ever learned was not to trust people who would kill him (and he took two stabs at learning that).
My small complaints are that Bran throughout the whole series has felt like a perpetual McGuffin, literally wheeled out to move the plot. And I donât know why everyone was so happy to accept the Northâs independence.
But just like the real Wars of the Roses, it ends with a guy with no decent claim on the throne, and a hint of spreading empire and bloodshed to a New World to the west.
So it is probably worth commenting on the series as a whole. It was the fantasy show that appealed to the masses by keeping the magic content down and the human interaction up.
Itâs also something of a powerful commentary on how meaningless the lives of so-called small-folk are to those holding the reins of power.
Itâs a show about the extremes of humanity, going on a scale from âfar too honourable for your own goodâ (Ned Stark, S1) to âI absolutely do not give a fuck who dies as long as I get my wayâ (Cersei and Dany, S1-S8).
Itâs perhaps fitting then that cirpples, bastards and broken things assumed all the major levers of power. Bran is king of the six kingdoms, Sansa is Queen of the North (is that really what theyâre going to call their new country? :D), Jon is either 1000th Commander of the Nightâs Watch, or more likely, going to end up King Beyond The Wall, a gig thatâll suit him better than that poncey shite down south.
Branâs going to be surfing the Weirwoodnet for porn most of the time, which means Tyrion is effectively going to run the Six Kingdoms. Arya could end up being Westerosâ version of Columbus. Letâs hope sheâs a bit nicer, eh?
The books will take longer to get there, but Iâve no doubt that the Starks will end up in the same spots. The original title of the last book was called A Time For Wolves, after all.
Best of all, itâs all totally open for sequels and prequels. The main cast have done their bit, but I am sure no-one would be averse to a spin-off in a decadeâs time featuring the original cast mixed with new blood.
Why are we calling her Dany? Thats a nickname, sheâs made up and we didnât know her as she is made up.
why are we calling you Barry Sanchez. You are a character and made up and we donât know you?
His real name is Ruprecht.
I know. Iâm such a bastard. Outing pap, theyâll call me
Yes, IntinikiâŠ
Button it, Ruprecht.