I agree with everything except I didnât laugh once, not even a small titter was forthcomingâŚ
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I may have had an Ale or two
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Back in the days when Ali G was the best thing on the Eleven O Clock show, and even when he had his own series, I thought Baron Cohen was the shit. Didnât like the movie as much, but small screen stuff often flops on the bigger format.
Borat was funny but it was really the first time I suspected his motives. There are two scenes in that movie I find really sinister. The first is in the redneck club. Borat starts singing a hugely antisemitic song, encouraging the local yokels to sing along. The second is the scene with the pissed up racist frat boys on the coach. Baron Cohen has always sought to entrap people in a sense.
Didnât watch Bruno, and switched off the Dictator just after heâd done his first little monologue.
Iâve seen him referred to as several things online, the most extreme charge being that heâs an outright propagandist. At the very least, heâs an arsehole that preys on the stupid, sneering at them. I havenât seen Grimsby either, but from the reviews Iâve read, it sounds like more of the sneering same.
I think I saw one wag comment that it was very interesting seeing privately educated Baron Cohen giving an approximation of sink estate life.
In hindsight, his act has always been the same. Just used to be funny and uncomfortable in a good way.
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Originally posted by @pap
Borat was funny but it was really the first time I suspected his motives. There are two scenes in that movie I find really sinister. The first is in the redneck club. Borat starts singing a hugely antisemitic song, encouraging the local yokels to sing along. The second is the scene with the pissed up racist frat boys on the coach. Baron Cohen has always sought to entrap people in a sense.
The âThrow The Jew Down The Wellâ was the pinnacle and it was v.funny you fool.
I know what ur saying tho, that Ali G & Borat & Bruno was designed to expose prejudices in The Public, but it werenât all about that for me. The stuff I liked was to do with seeing the allowances that people make when theyâre dealing with someone they think is stupid and pitiable, and how ppl end up agreeing, or at least tolerating someone talkng implausable nonsense cos ur like, well, theyâre foreign ainât they, or gay, or chav.
The Borat and the Bruno film are based on the above premise, and they are both v.funny.
The Ali G, Dictator, and Grimsby films are different. They are basic, scripted comedies where the main character is played as if he was Retarded, and should be bracketed in with i.e. any film starring Adam Sandler.
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Originally posted by @Bearsy
The stuff I liked was to do with seeing the allowances that people make when theyâre dealing with someone they think is stupid and pitiable, and how ppl end up agreeing, or at least tolerating someone talkng implausable nonsense cos ur like, well, theyâre foreign ainât they, or gay, or chav.
So, like Trump and Farage then?
Originally posted by @Bearsy
The Ali G, Dictator, and Grimsby films are different. They are basic, scripted comedies where the main character is played as if he was Retarded, and should be bracketed in with i.e. any film starring Adam Sandler.
I watched it with a mate of mine. Weâre both pretty like minded when it comes to films and stuff and both agreed it was shit. Yet he had the same experience as Phil and couldnât help laughing all the way through, where as I just found it fuckinâ annoying.
I liked the bit at the end where disclaimers come up and it said:
Daniel Radcliffe was not involved with with this movie, and does not have aids.
And then it said:
Donald Trump was not involved with this movie.
It made me lol
Ah Pap.
Shame you ducked out from The Dictator actually was his best film in terms of catching a psyche middle east man)
Most people down here laughed because it hit a lot of nails rather than it being Pythonesque humour.
Daughter watched Grimsby last night with hubby they both ohhâd & laughed.
Tbh I used to hate his show. Then one night got an invite to the local launch of Time Out mag for me the free booze & top night club VIP got me there. Anyway we were on the freebies and I saw this bloke at reception sorting stuff out of a cardboard box. Moments later DJ announces xyz as Ali G & we all assumed it was an impersonator.
Later afte weâd roflâs at the local gags, songs & stuff he came round chatting (earns extra name drop badge) & realised he is very clever. Puerile humour maybe, but he is clever enough to take it that one half notch below offensive then hop above the line hitting sore points.
It is gross and unfunny very often. But then back when it was launched, so was Life of Brian. Heck. Lots of early Python was gross & unfunny at the time.
Explainer of âThe Big Shortâ, if you havenât seen it already then please do. Itâs a perfect example of how to explain a complex financial scenario and dramatise it. Itâs important and brilliantly executed.
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Even more shitty is the whole concept of the synthetic cdo ⌠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2o81aJSEAM
Bearsy knows his stuff. Borat, especially was just recorded by the director. They set up scenarios and let things play out.
Just watched My Scientology Movie by Louis Theroux on amazon prime. Interesting stuff. Itâs sort of a documentary with a bit of movie filiming in it too. Surprised if he can live in LA without being followed.
Itâs on Netflix, or Youtube if you have a VPN.
I like Louis but the film really has been done before and better. The recreation is also slightly similar to An Act of Killing. I saw Going Clear before and itâs kind of amazing. Alex Gibney
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Watched Das Boot on a VR headset last night. While not in 360 itâs on Netflix so you can watch on VR app. Added to the claustrophobia. Immense.
As mentioned, we have a Bond channel at the moment.
Reminded me how good a movie the remake of Casino Royale was, and how actually decent Quantum of Solace was apart from the plot & villain.
In fact it did make me wonder just how the heck Bond did NOT bang Olga Kurylenkoâs brains out. Which is why it was so unbelieveable and nobody liked it I guess
Watched Lobster the other day, one weird film, but really good. About single people who have a limited amount of time to find a partner and if they do not, they are turned into an animal of their choice.
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