Originally posted by Chertsey Saint
Originally posted by Saint or sinner
Not as crazy as that interpretation. I donât think Cherts isnât blaming the staff, more the lack of.
Correct - definitely not blaming the staff, more the lack of investment in the area.
This backs that up, as far as the mental health issues are concerned.
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-manchester-attack-was-the-price-of-business-as-usual-6a74f385912f?source=collection_home---1------0-----------
A good read that covers different parts of the problem and hopefully ends the claim that our interventions havenât caused the problem.
US State Department data shows that since 2001, terror attacks have skyrocketed by 6,500 percent, while the number of casualties from terror attacks has increased by 4,500 percent.
May I respectfully request that Barry and Trampoline read this article?
That may be a reason but it doesnât excuse the actions, why do liberals continually look to excise murderous actions of others in the name of religion?
You are so out of sync with the population I can assure, get out of you bubble and talk to all people, there are many reasons for this and no excuses.
Can you excuse the Brexiters for voting out as they were poor?
Barry, Barry, Barry. Where has anyone on this thread tried to excuse the actions of this idiots?
All weâre trying to do is work out the reasoning behind why they are doing it.
You really do need to step back and take a deep breath.
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I am, you are grasping for logic when there isnât much, the reasons are many and there arenât one single one for one person, thereâll be many reasons but one trigger that sets it all off.
Bin Laden wasnât poor was he and neither were the 9/11 bombers, if you think you can work out the reasoning for this then you should be in Langley or Vauxhall Cross.
You all seem to think its some revenge like its a novel, what about ideology? Religious aggression and righteousness? Hatred of democracy?
Many reasons but us trying to work out the motives of a highly effective and organised terror unit is probably best for the professionals.
You havenât read the article have you?
Will you now stop using only one reason as the cause?
Your last sentence implies you will, or do you consider yourself an expert?
Read the article Barry. All of it. Then read the article @dubai_phil put up from the independent.
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I have your point? Ha Ha an expert on religious fundamentalist terrorism? No, far from it, but I wouldnât start for guidance in reactionary left leaning papers.
Hm. There was a Gallup poll conducted back in 2009 which found that, yes all of the 500 Muslims in the UK they surveyed thought were indeed homophobic. lol
Maybe it was just bad luck. Maybe out of the 3 million Muslims in the UK there are only 500 homophobic ones and as luck would have itâŚ
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This is the fascinating question.
When Dylan Roof murdered a dozen or so completely innocent people in the US for no other reason (he says) other than because they were black, none of these people questioned his self-professed white nationalist motives or attributed his crime to poverty or a lack of education.
Similarly, when Jo Cox was murdered, people took Thomas Mairâs comments of âEngland for the Englishâ or whatever it was, at face value. We didnât see the likes of the Guardian and the BBC exploring some kind of deeper meaning to his evil. Once again, they were happy to take him at his word. It was a racist murdering a public figure because of his racism. Boom. Thatâs the motivation.
Its only when thereâs a terrorist attack committed by a Muslim that all of a sudden, we simply have to look for a deeper meaning. Islamic extremism simply canât be accepted as the motive and explanation. There just has to be more.
And who knows? I donât doubt that there are an awful lot of contributing factors which could be explored in all the cases Iâve just mentioned, but the huuuuge disparity in the leftist reaction in quite striking.
Have you looked into the man? A recognised expert, that has advised governments including our own.
You calling him reactionary is priceless 
Iâm calling left leaning papers and their views reactionary and the liberals who continually look for dilution of accusation and questioning at the Islamic faith when these actions happen.
A Brit has killed his own, why?
Even when it rains its the Waspâs fault, being a wasp is so passĂŠ nowadaysâŚ
Maybe there was a forum of black liberals posting examples of bad things black people have done, and saying âyou can understand why he hates usâ
Does that mean that the Muslim Canadian Congress arenât Mulsims? Iâm very confused.
What about the Al-Fatiha Foundation?
But, but but, the snowflakes on here will melt when they read that, they simply canât accept it, they wonât have it, homophobic doctrine and people who hold those views HAVE to be the fault of the west, they HAVE to be!
Itâs his views as an expert. Your doing what you always do. Avoiding anything that doesnât fit your view. You agree the causes are many but dismiss an article that discusses many of them, whilst you constantly bang on about just one.
Why do you disagree with his comment on the lack of prosecutions?
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One? I have said there are many and have always said that, voluntary isolation, religion, education, anger, hatred of their own nation, indoctrinated, lack of tolerance etc etc the list could go on and on.
Many others have prospered here so I can only assume culture and faith are the issues, I am not changing my views that all are equal for anyone nor shall I ignore people that donât respect those values we hold dear, we have to combat cultural issues of racism, violence, intolerance and sexism exactly the same as we would the mainstream population.
Not one person on here is or has ever tried to excuse the actions of these deranged murderers. You are the one who keeps going on about it being unaccpetable and we are trying to get our heads around what makes people act in this way. You are also the one sticking his fingers in his ears and singing la, la,la,la, la, whenever something is posted that doesnt fit into the Barry Sanchez view of the world. Take your blinkers off and trying widening your horizons. It really isnt that difficult,especially as you tell us you are liberal, despite slagging them off all the time.
And as a post script, his sister has come out and said he was deeply upset about the air strikes in Syria and the children that had been killed. Not one word about looking forward to hooking up with a shedload of virgins in the afterlife or a recation to gay people. Cause and effect Barry. Cause and effect.
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He is so upset he kills his own Countrymenâs children?
I am to upset about it but I donât murder people.
